Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Our financials continue to be favorably impacted by elevated market interest rates with a $7.5 million or 13.4% increase in net interest income in the third quarter compared to the prior year late quarter due to manageable funding cost increases along with significant expansion in asset yields across the balance sheet
I believe our results indicate that we are doing a pretty darn good job at this so far
So we’re doing pretty well
We believe our underwriting has remained disciplined, and our funding position is strong
In closing, we remain confident in our balance sheet and the opportunities that are ahead for us
We had previously expected to report a linked quarter improvement in credit metrics with workout plans in place for a few credits we had downgraded in prior quarters
The good news is the portfolio trends remain well behaved on an overall basis and the stress testing at renewal rates has not raised any new red flags for us
And we’ve got ample opportunities to continue to optimize the earning asset mix coming at us over the next 12 months
I think investors should know that we remain confident in the strength of our portfolios and the credits driving the reduction in the allowance of the same credits we’ve talked about previously and which we continue to monitor and work towards remediation or sale
I still don’t see much opportunity to hedge away asset sensitivity, but balance sheet positioning and flexibility at this point is excellent, in my opinion
Expense discipline continues to be strong and our efficiency ratio continues to be excellent
As we sit here today, we have approximately $700 million in undrawn borrowing capacity and an additional $420 million in unpledged securities and short liquidity at the bank is excellent, and the holding company is in a strong position as well
Old Second originated portfolio remains very strong
The net result is that Old Second should continue to build capital very quickly as evidenced by the 50 basis point improvement in the TCE ratio over the linked quarter, even without a tailwind from AOCI, which combined with the 93 basis points in the first 6 months means we’ve added 143 basis points of TCE this year
The end result was a 2 basis point increase in the taxable equivalent NIM from last quarter to 466, which we believe continues to be exceptional margin performance
The margin has benefited year-over-year from balance sheet mix improvement, the impact of rising rates on the variable portion of the loan portfolio and continuing loan growth in 2023
It can continue, and I believe we can potentially grow earnings absent balance sheet growth
So things feel pretty good on that front
Noninterest income continued to perform well, and excluding losses on security sales discussed earlier, noninterest income increased $1 million compared to the second quarter of 2023 driven by gains on BOLI income due to restructuring, MSR gains and other income
It’s tough, right? You try and tell people that you’re in a good position in terms of what maturities you’ve got rolling off win, but we’ve done a nice job
I’m very happy with where we are
Loan yields continued to expand modestly during the quarter increasing by 9 basis points over the linked quarter and 127 basis points year-over-year
When you look at the securities portfolio, obviously, running off, and you guys have – I’ve said it before, you have done one of the best jobs in managing that portfolio through the pandemic
We have the balance sheet and flexibility to excel at a higher rate environment
The net interest margin expanded slightly this quarter, driven by increased loan yields, partially offset by the higher cost of deposits
But the positioning and loss content, you feel pretty good about
This redemption provided a net interest margin cost savings of approximately 3 basis points net of alternative funding costs
The third quarter of 2023 reflected loan growth of $14 million for the linked period and expanded $160.2 million or 4.1% over the same period last year
The bid has come back a bit on variable rate issues, as I said, and that has allowed us to move out of our excess positioning here quite effectively
So I think our investors are well protected by us raising that floor
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Unfortunately, these plans designed to improve cash flow metrics fail to materialize this quarter
The two health care credits, both are just struggling from a cash flow perspective as they’re dealing with the aftermaths of COVID, higher labor cost and just weaker occupancy
Third quarter earnings were negatively impacted by $924,000 in pretax securities losses on strategic security sales as well as $629,000 in net deconversion and liquidation costs related to the Visa credit card portfolio sale last year
And then I didn’t say it on the prior list of questions, but all of these new classified are still paying, and they still have sponsors behind it that are supporting the credits, but we just felt the overall cash flow was weak enough and necessitated downgrade
What we’ve seen so far in terms of weakness in downgrades, and we are downgrading realistically even without loss content is that the bulk of our problems, the overwhelming majority of our problems are poorly rated credits do come from acquisitions
I’m a little surprised that expectations for us as pessimistic as they are
One, both downtown Chicago that had just been struggling as a result of COVID
Our outlook has not changed, though, although the speed of resolution will be slower than hoped
However, origination activity has slowed significantly over the last 6 months
Tough to keep the margin if that’s your incremental funding cost
Pretax losses of $924,000 on security sales in the third quarter were incurred related to strategic repositioning within certain types in the portfolio
So we do have some inflationary headwinds that we do have to be mindful of
And certainly, the weakness within the last one was on the asset generation side and they basically purchased syndicated loans within that deal
It sounds like while kind of frustrated by the pace in some of these
So Old Second saw significantly less fair value deterioration than perhaps some peers experienced
Deposit flow this quarter showed modest leakage on the high end, along with typical seasonal decline in the third quarter, we always see based on tax payments for personal and business customers and commercial customers rolling out new activities throughout the summer
Brian Martin Hey, Brad, just you talked last quarter, I think, maybe before that, if we did see – going to their comment about the pessimism on people’s outlook, I mean, I guess, as far as the margin goes, I think you talked about if rates went lower, the margin could kind of bottom in that 4 to 4.25 range
Net interest income decreased slightly to $63 million for the quarter relative to the prior quarter of $63.6 million, but increased $7.5 million or 13.4% from the year ago quarter
Clearly our focus remains on monitoring potential weakness in commercial real estate and office and health care specifically
The combined impact of these 2 items reduced diluted earnings per share by $0.03 in the third quarter
   

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