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| In addition, we're getting very attractive OID upfront and higher-than-typical call premiums |
| Our competitive positioning today is as strong as it's ever been because of our scale and deep relationships with sponsors |
| We are pleased to report another quarter of very strong results, driven by continued growth in earnings and strong credit performance |
| And we've been able to achieve that |
| This is a new record quarterly NII for the company |
| So I feel really well positioned on that |
| Going into the third quarter of last year, we were confident that rising rates and continued credit performance were going to drive significant improvement in earnings |
| We recognized that we would significantly outperform the regular dividends in a rising rate environment and wanted to create a predictable mechanism to share that upside with shareholders |
| As we've noted before, given continued low repayments, ORCC is currently benefiting from this environment, largely through amendments and other repricing events which continue to help increase the overall spread on our portfolio |
| So even in an environment, if you take the forward curve and take it as gospel, we should have very strong earnings this year and next year |
| In total, this represents an annualized dividend yield of over 12% based on the current share price, which we believe is very attractive in today's market |
| Even with those lower rates, we're going to have terrific earnings at ORCC because they're still much higher than they were a year ago and our spreads are elevated as well |
| Our continued earnings growth is complemented by the strength of our portfolio |
| That's reflective of a good competitive environment for us |
| And so the marginal lender has the ability to get -- to sort of price the deal, and so I think it's a good competitive environment |
| That's really great insight |
| We also benefited from the increase of the mark in the equity investment in our senior loan fund, reflecting improved public market loan trading levels |
| In addition to higher rates, our results were driven by the strength of our credit quality, which is reflected in our very low nonaccrual rate, which stands at just 0.3% of the fair value of the portfolio with only 2 names on nonaccrual as of quarter end |
| We are very pleased with these results and believe we are in a position to maintain this level of earnings power and credit performance in today's environment |
| So -- and we're getting good documentation |
| I think it's extremely good value and the deals we're doing are of high quality as well |
| Many of our borrowers are experiencing improved profitability as a result of receding supply chain disruptions and lower input costs |
| For these reasons, we remain pleased with the strength of our liability structure and believe it will serve as a competitive advantage, providing the portfolio with flexibility and durability across market environments |
| We're quite excited about it |
| It's performing quite well and delivering very attractive dividends and ROE for ORCC |
| If anything, in the last couple of months, you've seen a nice rally in BSL and strengthening conditions overall in that part of the market |
| There will be more opportunities for Wingspire and we can put more capital in it and earn really attractive returns |
| It's a little bit slower growth but still growth, and we're seeing generally strong performance across all of our industry groups |
| These opportunities are attractive because they are for high-quality borrowers with enhanced spreads, documentation and leverage levels |
| So should we expect a better performance from Wingspire and maybe an acceleration in capital invested in that vehicle given its target market seems to be moving in a favorable direction ? Craig Packer As you know, we've been really pleased with the performance in Wingspire |
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| Lastly, this quarter, we saw some stress in the market as the banking sector crisis played out |
| And at the same time, there's some buildup of cost pressure in some consumer businesses, and that's resulting in some pockets of underperformance in consumer |
| The business, although we did restructure the debt and took a significant loss on the business, continues to face challenges |
| Then my other question was -- is I see we're in kind of a difficult marketplace as far as just the economic impacts are hitting some industries greater versus others and some industries actually have tailwinds |
| In addition, there have been some supply chain issues |
| We expect the economy to weaken |
| That said, we continue to expect and are prepared for more challenging conditions in the back half of the year |
| In terms of a couple of sectors that are maybe -- I won't say underperforming, but where there's a little -- some pockets of weakness, certainly, in the consumer area, there are businesses that we have that were big COVID beneficiaries that are now seeing slower demand because that demand during COVID has moved away |
| This will undoubtedly pressure liquidity at some borrowers more than others |
| And obviously, the syndicated market continues to be -- is opening back up but it continues to be weaker |
| Similarly, in the health care space, a small portion of our health care, not all of it, but a small portion were seeing pressures on labor costs, either just rising labor costs or inability to get labor that's resulting in more overtime or lower capacity utilization |
| Like many in the market, we have been anticipating a shift in consumer demand on the back of the higher rate environment and a subsequent contraction in the economy |
| We continue to see the impact of the broader slowdown in M&A and refinancing activity on new investment activity across the market |
| With the public market mostly unfavorable for new issuance, we continue to see direct lenders financing nearly all of the deals that are coming to market |
| Conversely, we could also see a decline in NII if rates drop or non-accruals increase, although we do not currently see evidence of either happening in the near term |
| And the reason I say I'm balanced about it and cautious about it is because as regional banks pull back, it does impact the economy overall, and it impacts conditions for our portfolio of companies on who their customers are getting financing from regional banks |
| But deal flow is light as well |
| And we felt at this point, given the challenges that it's facing, that it was prudent to keep it on nonaccrual |
| I'm just wondering if there's further disruption in the CLO funding and margin |
| I mean, Jonathan mentioned the bank disruption and the fact that the liability side is |
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