Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Because of our efforts, we saw marked improvement in our scores and sustainability rating from the various agencies
We anticipate capturing approximately point of price realization during the year and our strategic growth initiatives to generate positive core growth over the prior year, led by double-digit growth in our drinking water
Turning to profitability, our fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 30% in the prior year fourth quarter to $84 million and our adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 460 basis points year-over-year to 23.6% in the quarter
Specifically, we see the opportunity to deliver positive organic sales growth, robust profitability, and significant free cash flow for 2024, and as you'll see in a few minutes our outlook for the first quarter puts us off to a good start in accomplishing those objectives
The strong margin expansion was driven by the benefits of our productivity initiatives, inclusive of cost synergies, plus the lower material and transportation costs that fully read through our financials in the second half of the year
So very good, strong exit rates in drinking water
We leverage that growth into a 320 basis-points EBITDA margin expansion, driven by synergy benefits and normalizing supply chain and the continuous improvement benefits we get from the Zurn Elkay business system year in and year out
We believe we can generate positive proforma core sales growth year-over-year
And as Mark talked about, the profitability for drinking water and filtration are each very attractive
It was something that we had managed very effectively for the past 17 years, but we also feel it’s a really good use of some cash and overall benefit to shareholders having that behind us, I think is an important milestone
I wouldn't say we're going to give an exact number, but we feel really good about everything we accomplished this year and exit the year with similar strong momentum
Inventory levels heavily across the wholesale channel, e-com channel and everything else, are on really good shape
With respect to demand in the quarter, pro forma orders expanded double-digits on a year-over-year basis, the non-residential growth above the fleet average, with solid growth across all of our sectors led by drinking water partially offset by softer demand in our residential end-markets, that was in-line with our expectations for the quarter
But order growth also benefited from the prior year comparable I just discussed
Steady strength in institutional, some pockets of weakness in commercial, residential flattish, essentially with share gains initiative growth and a little piece of price driving what we expect to be our growth over the course of the coming year
And while there's still a lot of road to go, I think it's entirely reasonable to begin to think about and improving the end-market outlook into 2025 and 2026, coupled with accelerated momentum around our strategic breakthroughs; things like drinking water and filtration growth, the profit realization for some supply chain actions we've been working on over the past year, both of those should enable us to drive solid growth, profit and cash flow improvements from 2024 levels
If we could just move to Page 7, I think customers and consumers, often associate our Elkay filtered bottle filling stations with sustainability benefits around delivering clean filtered water and eliminating single-use plastics
Given the balance sheet position and our strong free cash flow generation, we have a lot of capital allocation optionality going forward
The fourth quarter ended on a strong note with sales, EBITDA, and free cash flow above the outlook we provided at the end of Q3
So, I feel like we're in a really good spot from the growth perspective, where the margin profile system, what that contributes next year and beyond
That is why we're so supportive of filter-first legislation across the country and in states, where we continue to innovate around affordable and easily accessible solutions
And then maybe just on the margin cadence, looks like you ended the year pretty strong and you are starting the first quarter strong with about 400 base point of margin expansion
Expanded our adjusted EBITDA margin by approximately 150 basis-points and generate approximately $250 million of free cash flow in 2024
So I think, look, we're seeing good activity in areas where there is population growth
We turned that profitability into a record free cash flow of $233 million
It's all very encouraging
When you think about from a margin standpoint, Bryan - that platform is basically overall a little bit above the fleet average with the filtration piece being a very strong margin component of it
And our ability to deliver tangible results that have an impact on our environment only continues to compound as we execute our fundamental business strategy, which happens to be the amazing symmetry of what our customer's goals are to do the right things for the environment
We know that our point-of-use filtration offers a unique, immediate, and cost-effective solution to the nation's infrastructure issues
Our fourth quarter sales totaled $357 million and a proforma core basis increased 900 basis points year-over-year
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Single-use plastic bottles have negative environmental impacts in their production and through the waste they generate
And the reality is - it's down mid-single-digits and it's a little bit worse, nobody dies
Our outlook assumes our market in total will modestly decline year-over-year at a mid-single-digit decline in our commercial end-markets will be partially offset by low single-digit growth in our institutional and water end-markets and flattish conditions in our residential end-markets
PFOA and PFOS are two of the most prevalent PFAS chemicals and have been linked to a number of serious health concerns
And shifting to the area of concern and for some investors, a major concern, the commercial exposure that you have
So I guess, what we're trying to tell you is, the punch line is our bottle filling stations break what we think is sort of an unsustainable cycle
We feel that isn't a good spot for us
But I think the slow, steady build of that amidst a large and growing installed base of units, is sort of the way to think about it
So that's a minor headwind
I think - I don't think there's a lot of confusion
I think in aggregate, we still believe institutional is up - as an end market, commercial is down as we highlighted
It means the rest of the portfolio probably declines slightly
Mark Peterson And we didn't miss anything
Low double-digit core sales growth in our non-residential end markets was partially offset by a low single-digit sales decline in our residential end markets
But I don't have a long list of headwinds to rattle off with
And obviously, there's certain areas where we see material cost inflation
And through our Fountains for Youth product donation program, we're donating filtered bottle filling stations to schools where resources are low and led and PFAS levels are high
I think you said, Mark, all-in, you think your end markets are kind of flat to slightly down
   

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