Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We think longer term that as we have existing home sales pick up and new home construction continue to grow, that R&R will steadily improve
As we look ahead, our balance sheet remains strong and continues to offer significant financial flexibility which is a key priority of our capital allocation strategy
With total annualized return approaching 10% since the beginning of 2006, which includes share price appreciation and reinvested dividends, we remain proud of what the West Fraser team has been able to accomplish
Accumulation of supportive industry fundamentals and our execution, performance and focus on returning capital to shareholders are reflected in the attractive returns generated for West Fraser shareholders over a number of cycles
I think when we look at our OSB business and the ramp-up, which is largely related to our ramp-up at Allendale, it really is improving our cost position and our sales group and marketing team has done a good job of creating new opportunities for us to move that product into our key customers
Saying that we have a really good business over there, strong team, well capitalized asset, good cost position
Having said that, we are encouraged by the fact that so far this year, mortgage rates in the US are well off the highs the industry experienced late in 2023
As always, we remain optimistic about the continued growth in demand for the types of sustainable and renewable wood products that West Fraser manufactures and for which the company is known
And as such, we remain optimistic about our portfolio of assets, our capital allocation strategy, and our long-term prospects for our lumber business
With our prudent approach to cash management, particularly in a difficult 2023, we were able to balance capital investment in the business, execute on acquisitive growth, and distribute significant capital to our shareholders
Products available, and we're happy with our position
We've got great people
So we're on budget on that project and excited about the return and what it's going to do for our platform
Consistent with our strategy, we have remained disciplined in our approach to capital allocation and have preserved capital in the event that we have a down -- in a down market that we are currently experiencing, it is this discipline that has positioned us to be able to execute on our plans and invest in and improve our assets through all market conditions
So we're bullish
In closing, while demand markets were challenging in 2023 and there are near-term uncertainties across our business, we remain confident in our people, processes, and the foundation we have built
I'd like to briefly shift my comments to our balance sheet and liquidity, the strength of which we believe provides us with great flexibility and a competitive advantage in the current market environment
And largely our company now is well positioned outside of the province
On a pro forma basis with the inclusion of Norbord, our 2023 EBITDA was approximately $320 million higher than that of the last down cycle in 2019, reflecting synergies from the Norbord transaction, the benefits of our capital investment program, as well as the acquisitions and strategic initiatives we've undertaken
We have been through many industry cycles before and we have the talent, assets, and financial flexibility to handle both the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead
One, clearly, our medium longer-term view on demand is it will be better
More recently, we announced the sale of our three of our pulp mills, which we expect will help reduce variability of future EBITDA, as well as help us concentrate more of our resources on being the premier wood products buildings company in North America
A big piece of that is our Henderson project, which is a -- will be a new mill on our site in Henderson, Texas, that supports our whole integrated platform and one of the -- frankly, one of the best regions to be operating in
The benefits of this product diversity were front and center in 2023
Good luck
Great, great
But I can only really speak to our customers and what we're seeing, and frankly, we're seeing stability year-over-year
The next slide shows a longer-term track record of our balanced capital allocation strategy
We have now been through a 10-year period in which total North American lumber supply has been essentially flat, with shrinking supply in British Columbia offsetting the gains in the US South, and this has occurred during a number of strong up years for lumber demand and pricing
Ben Isaacson Thank you very much, and good morning
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Lastly, and of additional concern today, unusually warm weather in Western Canada has hampered logging activities so far this winter, which has limited the accumulation of log inventories at some of our mills and has the potential to constrain our ability to manufacture and ship SPF lumber
Lower prices were the largest driver for the sequential EBITDA declines across our North American Lumber and Engineered Wood products businesses
The lumber segment posted negative $51 million of adjusted EBITDA, declining from positive $44 million in the third quarter, a period that had benefited from a $62 million export duty recovery
Rapid policy change and uncertainty regarding decision-making on the land base have constrained available timber supply, resulting in a lack of access to economically viable fiber
In our view, challenges to meaningful supply additions in the North American lumber industry will persist for the foreseeable future
While difficult to predict, we expect our business will continue to experience challenges ranging from the risk of resurgence of input cost inflation and higher mortgage rates, ongoing labor constraints, as well as demand challenges that may result from housing affordability constraints
Again, visibility, the channel inventories, visibility, that's difficult
First off, what I would say about Europe is things are slow over there, so pricing is down
As per our Q4 disclosures, we have continued to buy back shares early in Q1 with the view that they are trading below our estimate of intrinsic value
Our North American EWP segment generated $143 million of adjusted EBITDA, down from $289 million in the prior quarter
Yet lumber prices have been quite challenged for the last quarter or so
While the US South remains a critical area of lumber supply growth and a key region for West Fraser's growth strategy, it's important to note that this region's economic fiber supply, cost profile and access to end use markets for sawmill residuals are not homogeneous and that all of these factors are headwinds to growth
One of your competitors has suggested that capital costs for discretionary sawmill projects have increased to an extent that returns are compromised and it's contributed to a lower CapEx budget for that company
This exhibit highlights the challenges the North American lumber industry has faced and continues to face adding net new supply
West Fraser generated $97 million of adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter of 2023 as we continue to experience mixed results across our business segments, with strength in our North American engineered wood business, partially offset by continued soft demand for our North American lumber products
Our recent decision to close Fraser Lake Sawmill, one of West Fraser's founding mills, after having reduced its capacity to a single shift in 2022 to match available timber supply reflects these realities
So when ground conditions and road conditions are soft, our ability to log right through the season is impacted
And our teams are working hard to bring in as much wood as we can, saying that the weather has been warmer than normal, which has impacted ground conditions
You mentioned at the start of the call some issues with respect to weather in BC and how that could impact availability of logs
So I wouldn't expect materially different than what we're already experiencing, which is -- which needs to improve
   

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