Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Yet as we demonstrated in 2023 when our financing and sales volume fell by almost 50%, we have the business model, active management, an exceptional team to generate solid results as in $300 million in adjusted EBITDA on the year, only 8% below 2022 in challenging markets
Finally, we generate strong cash flow from operations and have a solid capital base that will allow us to invest in our business and raise capital to meet the market demand, just as we did when we announced the first close of our new debt fund in February that raised $150 million of capital and when levered will allow us to fund $0.5 billion of bridge business
So we’re feeling really good about how our borrowers are performing and how they are capitalized and how their assets are doing
As you can see on Slide 3, our Q4 financial performance was solid across the board, including total revenues of $274 million down just 3% from Q4 of ‘22 and diluted earnings per share of $0.93
And I think that, that has us feeling good about where we’re positioned at this point in the cycle
Finally, reflecting the strength of the W&D business model, adjusted EBITDA grew each quarter throughout the year from $68 million in Q1 to $88 million in Q4, down only 5% from Q4 of ‘22
We join the best platform and are thrilled about our new home
We are hopeful that we have effectively weathered the great tightening and that as rates stabilize and potentially head down, that we are extremely well positioned to benefit from the market’s eventual recovery
The market’s belief that the Fed is done tightening and will start to ease in 2024 is welcome news and very constructive for the commercial real estate industry
If the Fed begins easing in Q2 and continues to ease, we would expect a nice uptick in transaction volume this year and also an improvement in the credit landscape
Third, we’ve been fortunate to recruit some exceptional banking and brokerage talent to W&D over the past year from some of our largest and most formidable competitors
Our GSE volumes and market share remained strong, once again finishing the year as Fannie Mae’s largest dust lender for the fifth consecutive year at $6.6 billion and Freddie Mac’s third largest partner at $4.6 billion of loan deliveries
So generally speaking, feeling extremely good
Our research arm, Zelman, provided W&D with stable, subscription revenues as their research continues to be known as some of the very best covering the housing industry
Yet we know we have the people, brand and technology to achieve $13 a share of earnings in a robust market, which is very exciting
We ended 2023 as the third largest small balance lender with Fannie Mae and the fourth largest with Freddie Mac, expanding market share nicely with both
And our other tech enabled business apprise grew faster than the market last year, ending the year with a 11% market share, up from 6% in 2022
However, the sharp decline in long-term rates during the fourth quarter and a positive sentiment that followed the Fed’s November remarks led to increased transaction activity that drove improved performance in our Capital Markets segment
When coupled with the continued strength of our servicing in Asset Management segment, we delivered our strongest quarterly results for 2023
So we’ve had an excellent track record of credit that includes some of the cycles that you’re talking about and included the GFC, it included what happened post COVID and I think ultimately, our CECL reserve today is greater than that by 2x
Revenues benefited from a stronger gain on sale margin compared to the same quarter last year due to the mix of transaction activity that was weighted more heavily towards agents’ deep financing volume this quarter
And while W&D’s credit outlook is very solid and 3.4% negative rent growth in no way impairs any loan in our portfolio, these market data points clearly reflect the marketing transition not stabilized
So we think we have an opportunity to gain share even in a flat environment
That is what has made W&D such an exceptional company to invest in and we will continue to generate shareholder returns going forward
We have scale and brand in the multifamily market that is a competitive advantage every day
W&D’s outperformance is over the short, medium and long-term, thanks to establishing bold, highly ambitious business plans, focusing our exceptional team on achieving those goals and then executing
And our brand and team are so strong because we are continually innovating and investing in them both
Our credit book is healthy because we have taken the conservative, thorough underwriting perspective throughout both bullish and bearish markets
In short, we have maintained a consistent, disciplined approach to credit for over 30 years as a DUS lender and we continue to feel good about the broad credit fundamentals of our at-risk portfolio, given where we are in the cycle
We have a fantastic business model that generates strong cash flow and we ended the year with $329 million of cash on hand
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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2023 adjusted EBITDA of $300 million was down 8% year-over-year, while adjusted core EPS totaled $4.68 per share down 16%
The macroeconomic challenges caused the pace of dispositions to slow meaningfully at the end of this year compared to the last 2 years and as a result, investment management revenues were down quarter-over-quarter
Our scaled, servicing and asset management platform contributed significantly to our revenues, which totaled $1.1 billion, down only 16% from 2022
Turning back to our consolidated financial results, full year total transaction volume of $33 billion was down 48% year-over-year
Similarly, the publicly traded multifamily REIT saw average rent decline of 3.4% in Q4
Our multifamily property sales team closed $2.9 billion of sales in the fourth quarter, bringing our full year volume to $8.8 billion, down 55% from 2022, slightly less than the broader market decline of 61%
Debt brokerage volume declined 34% in Q4 to $2.9 billion and was down 55% for the full year to $11.7 billion
This was a year of persistent, volatile market conditions that depressed commercial real estate investment and transaction activity
That would be a disappointing outcome given the potential for stable and maybe even declining interest rates this year, but we cannot disregard the view of our 2 large partners
Over the past year, we struck a cautious tone with respect to the market
But operating margin for this segment was still down 4 percentage points to 30%, while adjusted EBITDA declined 3% to $111 million
Revenues this quarter were down $7 million compared to the same quarter last year
And as we sit here today in a market that still has numerous headwinds, generating $13 of EPS in 2025 is going to be extremely challenging
Diluted earnings per share continues to be impacted by lower transaction activity and was $3.18 per share for the full year, down 50% from 2022
2023 was a challenging year for the commercial real estate industry and the fourth quarter started out with the same headwinds that we saw throughout the year, but the lower than expected CPI print in November drove a 100 basis point rally in rates and the deals in our pipeline held together for the first time all year, resulting in $9.3 billion of total transaction volume in the quarter
That’s going to present a significant challenge to the market to find enough capital across the spectrum to meet that need for financing, particularly as we see banks pull back
But then when you look at prior periods, the ‘80s and early ‘90s, clearly, there was a lot of pressure there
But as you well know from covering the broader industry, the multifamily industry has credit concerns to it today and particularly deals that were advanced in ‘21 and ‘22 with floating rate debt on them
EPS was off more than other metrics, largely due to two transaction-related adjustments unique to Q4 of last year
Finally, there are many macroeconomic drivers that we do not control, including interest rates, political elections and inflation that will undoubtedly impact our business this year
   

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