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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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But margins here, both in Q4 and the outlook are quite strong
As noted in our earnings release, adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of 200 basis points in Q4 capped off a remarkable year for Waste Connections, driven by solid execution and continued improvement in operating trends
And those are excellent strategies for their companies as well
Looking at our differentiated results during the full year 2023, we delivered 70 basis points adjusted EBITDA margin expansion after overcoming 60 basis points in headwinds from recovered commodity values to report an industry leading margin of 31.5%, double-digit growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA from price-led organic solid waste growth and outside acquisition contribution, along with disciplined execution and focus on the quality of revenue drove adjusted free cash flow of $1.224 billion or 15.3% of revenue, in line with our outlook
With 120 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion expected as a minimum, along with upside from continued improvement in recovered commodity values or inflationary pressures as well as any additional activity, we are well on our way towards exceeding the near-term 34% EBITDA target we have discussed widely
And we feel very confident in achieving that number
Getting back to the basics that are fundamental to implementing the differentiated strategy has driven our exemplary track record of value creation for 26 years
So I would say that certainly turnover at this point is impacting our cost structure and we are starting to see favorably impacting our cost structure
As we have indicated, we are extremely pleased with our strong operating and financial performance throughout 2023, most notably driven by momentum in the second half of the year, when adjusted EBITDA margins expanded to an average of 32.4%, with Q4 margin expansion of 200 basis points year-over-year
Together with the rollover contribution from deals completed during ‘23, this already sets up expected 2024 acquisition contribution of over $325 million, with a robust pipeline of solid waste opportunities coming in ensuing quarters
A historical strong year is $150 million to $200 million of acquired revenue
Continued moderation in inflationary trends, additional acquisitions closed during the year or increases in the values for recovered commodities or in E&P waste activity would provide upside to our 2024 outlook
We delivered core pricing of 9.5% and expanded margins by 70 basis points to report adjusted EBITDA margin of 31.5% for the full year 2023
Excluding 60 basis points margin drag from lower commodity values, underlying margins expanded by 130 basis points during the year, reflecting our focus on revenue quality as well as the impact of abating cost pressures and the improving trends in retention and safety
All of which contributed to the accelerating margin expansion in the second half of 2023
Looking ahead, 2024 is setup for continued outsized margin expansion from reduced turnover and the unrealized cost benefits of improving risk, along with moderating cost inflation
Both employee turnover and safety incident rates exit 2023 at multiyear lows, setting up 2024 for continued improvement in trends, along with the opportunity for outsized margin expansion
We entered 2024 with continued momentum and well-positioned for outsized growth, along with a renewed commitment to sustaining the model that has set us apart
Excluding this 20 basis point impact, our adjusted EBITDA margin was up 220 basis points year-over-year, primarily from underlying solid waste margin expansion
We are proud of our results and applaud the local teams who embody the enduring operating values of the company
But generally, I would say it improves our optionality and M&A opportunities in the city
Solid waste organic growth led by 8.7% core pricing was bolstered by improvements in commodity-driven revenues during the quarter, providing momentum for 2024
Ending 2023 with leverage of approximately 2.6x debt-to-EBITDA and liquidity of over $1.5 billion, our balance sheet strength and free cash flow profile provide flexibility for continuing elevated levels of investments in our organic solid waste growth story, along with renewable energy projects and solid waste acquisitions, while also increasing our return of capital to shareholders
And we feel now well positioned to do even north of that
We are extremely pleased by our 2023 results and our positioning for outsized growth in 2024
And then looking at the full year, as we said, there are three factors that would drive the opportunity for outsized margin expansion, the first one being the underlying business and the opportunity for outsized price cost spread and improving retention
We think the EPR opportunities in Canada are nice opportunities, okay
And as we talk about underlying solid waste margin expansion, one of the drivers being cost moderation as we move through the year
During 2023, employee retention improved by over 20%, with a reduction in open positions of over 40%
Similarly, we renewed our commitment to a decentralized operating philosophy and servant leadership culture, both of which have served to differentiate Waste Connections and drive industry leading results
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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I believe Q1 margin guidance of 31.2% translates to margins down 100 basis points sequentially
Volume expectations reflect about 1% in incremental temporary volume losses associated with the widespread weather-driven closures during January across many markets, particularly on the West Coast
Solid waste volumes in Q4 were down 2.3% and continue to reflect our shedding of poor quality revenues and the non-renewal of municipal contracts as well as a purposeful trade-off between price and volume in some markets
But weather is a factor, as we said, it’s contributing to outsized negative volumes in the quarter
Fuel and material surcharges were negative 80 basis points in the quarter on lower fuel costs
So, if we were at a run rate of negative 2.5% volume, we said about a point of that is purposeful shedding from contracts that we walked away from or rebid in such a way that we knew we wouldn’t ultimately hold on to it, and that was okay because they were poor quality revenue contracts or customers
We also are going to be somewhat cautious in guiding RNG as you are seeing across the board, you have to build headroom in these projects
That’s what – so, if it’s zero organic volume growth at zero to 1% and you do shedding, you are negative
And if I remember correctly, even in COVID, the Canadian production didn’t go down that low given all the disruption
Looking at year-over-year results in the fourth quarter on a same-store basis, roll-off pulls per day were about flat and total landfill tons were down about 1%, with MSW flat, special waste up 2% and C&D waste down 9%, due primarily to last year’s hurricane-related volumes, as noted
During 2023, we incurred approximately $21 million in related costs, slightly below our estimates due to the timing of outlays
Additionally, in Q4, they reflect tough comparison to the prior year’s hurricane-related activity in Florida and in Texas, the diversion of waste from our Seabreeze landfill where we impose temporary operating limitations while completing certain repairs
Two, the disposal capacity in the Northeast is constrained, as everyone knows
There are still supply chain issues for things like transformers, generators, etcetera, that they need
Some of that size and an inability to do as much M&A in the current HSR requirements
I know I have had some inbounds on negative volume that you have had through the course of 2023 and the negative volume you are now projecting for 2024 and some are comparing that to your peers, which are in the positive territory
As we came through into Q2 of ‘23, that number dropped to about 30%, and as we came through the end of the year, that number dropped to about 27%
I mean, number one, it provides certainty and sustainability and projectability of the business model in and around New York City, Which has had sort of an uncertain competitive footprint for decades
And then as a company, over 5 years ago, we stopped taking much of the material that we believe can cause ETLFs, which tend to be some sort of aluminum production material or untreated auto shredder fluff
And we know that we had not only tough comparisons in Q1 last year because of hurricane-related disposal, but we also have the weather we have already seen
   

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