Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Thanks to the great effort of our Exhibition team to improving pricing, deliver great service and grow our share of spend on the show floor
I'm very happy to report that our finish to 2023 exceeded our expectations in what was a great year for our businesses
GES substantially outperformed our prior guidance during the quarter and Pursuit delivered solid results in this seasonally slower period
Looking at the year as a whole, Pursuit set new records for both revenue and EBITDA, with the continued return of international leisure travel to our destinations and our expanded portfolio of experiences
It allows us to continue to maintain things at a high level and also keep improving experiences and at the same time, be it a great margin business that we can sustain over the long term
We have a great deal of optimism as we enter 2024 in a position of strength with robust demand for our extraordinary experiences at Pursuit and GES, and tailwinds from a strong non-annual show schedule and the opening of FlyOver Chicago
We expect to deliver very strong revenue and EBITDA growth again this year
But the jump this year to almost '27 and then coming in on '24 at 30%, we believe 33% is a really sustainable and powerful margin for the business
Revenue increased $43.7 million or 17.6% year-over-year with healthy growth at both Pursuit and GES
Consolidated adjusted EBITDA increased $16.5 million and our fourth quarter net loss before other items improved by $10.9 million
And we are very pleased with what we were able to accomplish in 2023, given that it's a traditionally lower non-annual show rotation for this year
As shown on Page 7, Pursuit's fourth quarter revenue grew $8.1 million or 23.6% year-over-year and adjusted EBITDA improved by $2.9 million
Pursuit delivered growth across all revenue categories as we continued to see strong demand for our experiences and destinations in this seasonally slow period
Attractions ticket revenue saw the largest year-over-year gain with an increase of 34%, driven by a 23% increase in visitors and higher effective ticket prices
Visitation growth was particularly strong across our Western Canada attractions as well as at our Sky Lagoon attraction in Iceland
And Maligne Lake is a great example of a very successful business, very highly rated from a guest experience standpoint
Spiro delivered revenue growth of $11.4 million or 15.8%, excluding the impact of non-annual events in the sale of ON services, Spiro's revenue growth rate was about 23% versus the 2022 fourth quarter driven by strong spending from existing and new clients
GES exhibitions delivered revenue growth of $24.7 million or 17.2%, excluding the impact of non-annual events and the sale of ON services, GES exhibitions revenue growth rate was about 18% versus the 2022 fourth quarter, as show sizes continue to improve
We've got consistent rate increases, and as we make experiences better, we're able to provide a better experience and then charge more for it
And so we're working hard in that direction, and we're pleased with the 370-basis point increase in 2023
Our consolidated adjusted EBITDA increased $30.9 million or 26.6%, on a 9.9% increase in revenue reflecting strong year-over-year growth at both Pursuit and GES on improved demand
Pursuit's full year adjusted EBITDA grew $24.7 million or 36.3% on a $51 million increase in revenue, reflecting the very high margin characteristics and operating leverage of the Pursuit business
I mean, we're quite confident and on track for our return to 30% margin in 2024
A strong underlying performance more than offset the $74 million revenue impact from the sale of ON Services and the timing of major non-annual shows
Our full year income before other items, which excludes that gain, improved by $6.3 million, reflecting stronger EBITDA partially offset by higher interest expense and tax expense
And I can tell you that demand in '24, demand in '25 remains quite strong
And so the good news is we have demand from all over the world
We're really pleased with the new clients that we've picked up during the course of '23, and I feel there's momentum behind us and that will definitely help our overall growth for Spiro in '24
We expect those numbers to continue to perform and we're in a good position as we move forward
With the meaningful full-year EBITDA growth we are anticipating, we also expect very strong operating cash flow particularly in the third quarter with Pursuit's seasonal contribution and GES' two largest non-annual shows taking place
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
However, same-show square footage remains about 10% below pre-pandemic level
We entered 2023, knowing our revenue would be negatively impacted by about $80 million from the sale of ON services and the timing of non-annual events
Our full year net income attributable to Viad decreased $7.2 million, primarily due to the $19.6 million gain on the sale of ON Services in the prior year
When adjusting to exclude the favorable impact of non-annual shows and the loss of revenue from ON services which we sold in December of '22, GES' fourth quarter year-over-year revenue growth was about 20%
And you never want to benefit from someone else's misfortune
For Pursuit's seasonally slow first quarter, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of negative $12 million to negative $8 million as compared to negative $10.3 million in the 2023 first quarter
I also want to quickly comment on our expectations for tax expense, which, absent guidance from us is very challenging to model, given our jurisdictional tax positions
Without getting into specific guidance for future years, can you just give us a sense at a high level, I mean, assuming you've got a pretty meaningful revenue headwind in 2025, when you lose some of these non-annual shows
Toronto remains mired in some back and forth between the site and the city of Toronto
This is down from liquidity of $201.3 million at the end of the third quarter, reflecting operating cash outflows of $9.8 million and capital expenditures of $23.6 million
So you're not stuck if a country's economy falters, you're not stuck waiting for business from that country
I mean, looks like you for rounding to the nearest percentage point, you basically hit your 8% EBITDA margin target early, and looks like you're guiding to margins a little bit above that for this year
   

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