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| Yes, we believe we're in really good shape |
| Vistra delivered strong fourth quarter results in 2023 with ongoing operations adjusted EBITDA of approximately $965 million, including $463 million from retail and $502 million from generation |
| We feel good about it |
| We've seen some positive surprise in capacity prices in New England |
| 2023 was a heck of a year, and we look forward to what is in store with Energy Harbor, who I also want to thank they have done an excellent job running a business during a year of uncertainty, whenever an announcement is made, the units are running very well |
| Importantly, we have strengthened and simplified our balance sheet while maintaining our capital return plan |
| The successful repurchase of approximately 98% of our outstanding tax receivable agreement rights marks further progress in our efforts to simplify Vistra's capital structure, while improving our free cash flow conversion over the foreseeable planning horizon |
| Positive residential customer count growth was driven by our multi-brand strategy with organic growth by our flagship brand, TXU Energy, for the third consecutive year |
| With grids in most of our markets tightening in the coming years as older fossil generation retires, mode continues to grow and with interconnection and transmission challenges, Vistra is well-positioned to continue to find ways to serve our customers reliably, affordably and sustainably while remaining disciplined about our capital allocation |
| But I view this as an opportunity for us with our native position that I think it's specifically an enhanced opportunity for our own assets, if we choose to do something behind the meter |
| It was really -- we thought it was a great economic benefit to the company, including a significant amount of NPV for us |
| We're going to continue to execute our plan, which includes returning capital in an environment of very strong long-term fundamentals |
| Good for our gas fleet, obviously, up in New England |
| First, I am proud to share the very strong results that the hard-working Vistra team delivered in 2023 |
| Importantly, this translated to higher than expected ongoing operations adjusted free cash flow before growth of approximately $2.491 billion, exceeding the midpoint of our original guidance range by $441 million |
| We do see some benefits on a -- just a straight free cash flow basis, it is positive from free cash flow |
| New England was a better clear than we've seen in a while |
| As far as the best metrics, clearly, with Constellation's call yesterday, very successful in their description of how to think about the value drivers |
| Despite mild weather conditions for much of the year, the performance of our generation units combined with our comprehensive hedging program and our ability to optimize our flexible assets drove the significant year-over-year improvement in our generation results in every region in the country |
| The strong margin performance seen in the first nine months of the year continued in the fourth quarter |
| The loan program is clearly a boost because the interest rate at 3%, that's better than where market is |
| This was not only true in delivering results $440 million above our original guidance level in 2023 and but was recently apparent during Winter Storm Heather in January of this year, where our core competency of operating generation assets was evidenced by our 98% commercial availability, which is particularly impressive in an environment where the ERCOT overall market outage rate for the five days impacted by the storm was 2.5 times Vistra outage rate |
| These results were achieved through strong customer count and margin performance at our retail segment and a nearly 96% commercial availability rate for our Generation segment |
| So we feel good about the risk management around that |
| And we feel good about that |
| While the ERCOT forward price curves continue to reflect on backwardation, the prices remain higher than the April 29, 2022, curves when we first spoke to you about increased EBITDA earnings potential in the out years |
| We believe our commercial optimization activities and flexible generation assets combined with an industry-leading retail business provides significant opportunities going forward |
| We are extremely proud of the performance of our generation retail and commercial teams during 2023 and the start of 2024 |
| These curves together with the continued execution of our comprehensive hedging program, give us confidence in the ongoing operations adjusted EBITDA midpoint opportunity for 2025 in the range of $3.8 billion to $4 billion for Vistra stand-alone discussed last quarter |
| But I think we have a very good line of sight and very consistent with everything that we've shared publicly so far and our expectations of this deal |
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| There was a lot of concern from a lot of customers and others that maybe there was too much price formation |
| So again, it's still a little bit of a struggle as to what is going to be the effect on the capacity, things like market seller offer cap have been very difficult to move the needle on, which has had a dampening effect on capacity prices |
| But out in the forwards, you still see concern around whether the price signals will be there |
| And I think that still comes from the concern of how much renewables will continue to come in |
| Well, the demand growth surprised, I think many of us, both what we saw last summer and even with Heather |
| It's likely that ECRS could actually dispatch a little earlier, could actually end up being brought into the market earlier than it was last summer, which could have a little bit of a dampening effect on prices |
| And now I would say it's just uncertain how some of these things like ECRS will play out |
| Maybe first with -- yeah, the fundamentals of our markets are tightening, but we don't see it in forward power curves and probably very low natural gas prices do not help |
| So gas prices went up and the Russia-Ukraine conflict have come back down |
| So I think they are coming to the same conclusion that other grid operators, which is we -- PJM used to be really flushed with excess capacity, but a lot of it is retiring |
| And part of that is just the rules uncertainty around hydrogen, but also I think we're serving a customer demand |
| I'll step back just a second to say that as the grids have become a little bit tighter across the country, we're seeing the fossil assets retire, particularly coal |
| And there's a tension there |
| PJM has delayed some of their auctions |
| There has also been a substantial amount of noise regarding the ECRS, I guess what's your house view on supply/demand backdrop and sort of ongoing market reforms? Thanks |
| But with -- if you're speaking nuclear first with a production tax credit that escalates with inflation and our curves are basically sitting at those levels, you would need to see something attractive from a customer to lock it in and it would have to be at a reasonable premium to what your view is of the alternative, which is to stay long to have the PTC as some support on the bottom, but still retain some of the upside for that asset |
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