Earnings Sentiment

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Earnings Call Transcript Word Cloud

     

Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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So we are very, very optimistic about that
Vinci had another strong quarter fundraising for private markets
So things are looking very promising for the next few years
It was a fantastic opportunity to share with shareholders and investors our targets and goals for Vinci's future
But we're extremely happy with what we have been able to accomplish with them so far
We are reaping the benefits from a strategy that we adopted a long time ago, proprietary distribution channels with a close relationship with our clients
Management fees were flat on a year-over-year basis, yet they exhibit a positive growth trend going forward
We are reaping the benefit of a well-developed platform with several business lines built to succeed across market cycles
As Alessandro previously highlighted, there are positive signals of stability emerging in global markets, which bodes well for potential future performance recognition
And we are seeing strong demand as we have been introducing this strategy to our LPs, especially when it comes to international investors
And finally, there's a very strong effort to originate opportunities -- to invest together
As I highlighted over the past earning calls, this should be an important growth driver for Vinci when facing favorable conditions
Upon closer examination, private market management fees were up 11% year over year, backed by strong fundraising over the last 12 months
Overall, we had important commitments for VICC and VCP IV throughout the second half of the year while also benefiting from market appreciation across the board
Currently, M&A market is gaining momentum as market conditions improve
The Ares partnership so far has been excellent
Our corporate advisory team successfully surpassed our BRL30 million annual target for advisory revenues
With that said, private markets should continue to set the tone in 2024, with liquids and IP&S being potential upsides over the second half of the year
We posted another quarter of solid growth, with FRE and DE increasing respectively, 14% and 17% year over year on a per share basis
We believe that 2024 will be a very important year, where we'll expect to accelerate our growth while, again, showing our resilient and well-constructed business model
This represents a high-quality FRE growth, backed by long-term lock-ups in AUM and a higher fee rate
And we believe to be in a great position to repeat its success in 2024
We are very excited for SPS IV and see some interesting upside to our new vintage with the Ares team as our partners
VICC is close to the target, and we are experiencing traction with international investors that have shown strong appetite for climate-related products
FRE continues to grow, pushed by the strong fundraising of private market products and a higher level of advisory fees
The track record for the last three vintages is stellar, with Funds 1 and 2 posting attractive DPI to investors
So I think our franchise, of course, being a very straightforward execution franchise, especially on the M&A side, but we have been able to capture some additional market share in this whole M&A market
We have a well-developed platform ready to leverage growth
With that said, with a successful fundraising cycle for private market products in 2024, aligned with a more constructive scenario in IP&S and liquid strategies, we could experience margins improvements towards the end of the year
This structural change will drive a substantial positive impact on exchange rates and therefore, inflation, helping to restrain it and paving the way for deeper interest rate cuts
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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We still suffer from the trade-off between still high overnight returns and the diversification into riskier asset classes
Moreover, during our research, we came across several instances that indicated the experience for corporate plans is even worse than the overall industry because the incumbent providers do not invest in this segment at all
During that period, we encountered several unsatisfied investors, with products that are not suitable for the long-term goals and the overall inefficiency of the incumbent banks
Several players suffered from huge redemptions throughout the last two quarters
Shifting to PRE results, performance fees remain at a relatively modest level, influenced by the recent turbulence in global and local markets, that has adversely affected portfolio appreciation
In recent years, the Brazilian asset management industry has suffered with substantial outflows, with a considerable part migrating to tax-free CD products issued by local banks
Both faced challenging market conditions that led to a decrease in management fees on a year-over-year basis
In the second half of 2023, we experienced in Brazil a temporary impact on real interest rates following the challenging macroeconomic environment in the US and a bump in medium-to-long-term real rates for treasury bonds
IP&S continues to be a little bit down
And this is more related with the high interest rates and the outflows, our suspicion that some of them went to tax-exempt CDs, incentivized by this tax issues that, recently, the government closed some doors
We accomplished that facing a challenging worldwide scenario to raise capital for close-end products
What we did have in the fourth quarter was a material appreciation impact in the AUM
Market expectations anticipate the cancellation of 30% of new issuances
This growth was partially offset by liquid strategies and IP&S
It's the same environment that we saw in the last several quarters, with equities kind of stable and IP&S in terms of flows a little bit down
   

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