Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Wealth indicators such as the stock market and home values remain robust and inflation is normalizing, all of which is good for us
As a result, adjusted EBITDA was $31 million in the quarter, while adjusted EBITDA margin was again strong at 52%
We're also very encouraged with how fast travelers have returned to Maui with occupancy during the month of December approaching the prior year
So the outlook is good
Today more legacy Sheraton and Westin owners are using the Abound program enabling them to experience its many benefits
After last year's challenges, it was great to end the year on a strong note
2023 was also an exciting year for our Hyatt business
We saw strong growth in our international business last year, with contract sales growing more than 50%, and we expect strong growth in Asia Pacific again this year as the market continues to recover
And ultimately, with things like AI right and the ability I think over time to drive more efficiencies in the business and self-service of our owners, it's a huge opportunity I think for us as we go forward
As you saw in our press release last night, we ended the year on a positive note, with contract sales increasing 4% year-over-year adjusting for the estimated impact of Maui
But then as we got into the third and fourth quarter, you really got that stabilization and we feel good that that's where we have the ability to hopefully push some pricing and drive VPGs
International contract sales grew 36%, year-over-year with strong growth seen in both Europe and Asia Pacific and resort occupancy was nearly 90%, even with the Maui impact illustrating our owners and customers' demand to get on vacation
So we've been very successful with some of our different marketing channels to drive package sales
With the Abound transition behind us, growth in international contract sales and a strong package pipeline, we expect both VPG and tourists to grow year-over-year
Looking forward, we have a great business model with attractive margins and global growth opportunities
Looking forward, we've got a great business with the exclusive rights to use the Marriott Sheraton Westin and Hyatt brands in our Vacation Ownership business, with products that resonate with customers and opportunities to continue to evolve our core offerings to meet the needs of today's consumer
We're seeing good stability and positioning ourselves for some growth here on VPG going forward
Right now, our keys on the books for the summer months in North America and international are up a few points, which is encouraging, but it's still early days
Economic indicators remain positive, and our reservation on the books for the summer are up both domestically and internationally
As a company whose sole focus is providing memorable vacations for our owners and guests, that puts us in a great position to grow
At the same time, GDP is growing consumer confidence remains positive
Despite the growth in leisure travel over the past few years, 92% of Americans recently surveyed said, they plan to travel as much or more this year, as they did last year and demand for international travel continues to be strong
Now, are we going to see continued increase in investments? No, I think we're on a pretty good clip and we're going to continue to do things that are really going to either drive efficiencies at the bottom line or top line growth
As we move into a new year, the transition to Abound is behind us and we look forward toward growing contract sales this year, driven by a mix of higher tours and improved VPG
Adjusted development margin increased 160 basis points year-over-year to 33% driven by lower product cost
I've also had the opportunity to meet many of our associates around the world in my first year as CEO, and the energy and passion our teams bring to delivering consistently exceptional vacation experiences is apparent in each of them
We also expanded our highly successful preview booking engine and we'll continue to replace inefficient off-premise marketing channels with more efficient branded channels
We've seen that stabilize, right? So that's a good factor going forward
This will enable us to grow towards and increase VPG in our Hyatt Vacation Ownership business this year, allowing us to better leverage our marketing and sales spending
We also generate substantial free cash flow
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Before I turn the call over to John, as you saw in our earnings release last night with four vacation ownership resorts in West Maui, the wildfires had a negative impact on our results in the third and fourth quarter, despite having no physical damage to our properties
Housing in Maui continues to be a challenge for residents including many of our associates
Finally, total company adjusted EBITDA would have declined 10% year-over-year in the fourth quarter, adjusting for Maui and the prior year alignment benefit driven largely by those higher G&A costs
We expect development margin to be down a couple of hundred basis points in the first quarter due to the Maui impact and higher costs, including the higher sales reserve on new note originations, which I mentioned on our last call
And then, maybe for Jason or anybody, honing in on the rental business it sounds like there's going to there's going -- it sounds like you're implying that rental will be down on a profitability -- from a profitability standpoint this year
At this point we are expecting rental profits for 2024, as we talked about on the last quarter to be down a little bit versus what we saw in 2023
And that's where you saw the impact in Vistana, I want to say, all of the VPG down in the second quarter last year was the transition, but I think our VPGs are down 15% year-over-year
Contract sales in the fourth quarter declined 2% year-over-year, but increased 4% excluding Maui
Financing revenue is expected to increase this year, but financing profit is expected to be down due to the continued resetting of borrowing costs in the ABS market
Even before Maui, we had a difficult VPG comp in the first quarter due to last year's strong start of the year
As a result, we expect development margin to be down slightly for the year
So we do expect contract sales, as Jason mentioned, we've got a tougher comp as we go through the year
And as we talked about last year, you saw VPGs trend down a bit as you went through the balance of the year
Second half, as you mentioned, as well you had the Maui fires and obviously that impacted contract sales $50-plus million in the second half of the year
And then as a follow-up, John, I know you just mentioned the maintenance fees are a little bit of a headwind on the unsold inventory
But when you put it all together, we expect first half of the year to be little bit less growth given the tougher comp
And rental profit will be impacted by higher inventory expense, both of which we mentioned on our last call
Because of the timing of the wildfires last year, we will have a more difficult comparison in the first half this year, though we will have an easier comparison in the second half
I think you got to think about recovery in Maui high level on contract sales, right? What are we doing at our sales centers and are we getting back there? Because when you start to talk about EBITDA Patrick, obviously our business isn't static, right? You got higher unsold maintenance fees that are going to impact rentals in Hawaii that -- this year that we didn't have last year, right? So it is more about our occupancy is at back to where we want it to be close, right? Rental occupancy is still running a little bit lower than it would have been at last year
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