Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
In sum, we had a great quarter in a higher rate environment than fourth quarter 2022
I think it’s going to be a very, very positive environment
And so we feel like we have the upside of the market from a rate perspective, but the upside of the broker channel as well that none of our competitors really have at least in other public competitors
And so we’re feeling excited about what this year looks like
So I think this quarter will be a great quarter
We ended the year with over $108 billion of overall production and record market share across the board
In short, I am incredibly proud of our team’s performance throughout the year and believe this performance is also clear evidence of the strength of the broker channel
And if you compare that to the first quarter of 2023, I think you’ll see it very favorable based on my guidance and hopefully, the execution of that
And now, we are uniquely positioned to take advantage of the lower rates and increased housing inventory and demand that I believe we will see over the next 6, 12 and 18 months
First and foremost, the broker channel is strong and continues to grow its overall share of the industry
And so I look at these things is all positive, help brokers differentiate, and help brokers grow
Second is our investment in technology continues to give our brokers a competitive advantage on speed, price and process, always making the process faster, easier and cheaper as our focus
We will continue to build the best technology and provide the best service to the broker channel, take incredible care of our 7,000 plus team members by treating them like family, dominate purchase business and reward our shareholders with a consistent dividend
There is a tremendous upside to the broker channel and UWM is prepared to make the most of that opportunity in the future
We believe in 2024 will be a better overall year for the housing and mortgage industry
We believe that our current financial strength positions us well for different market cycles
The strength of our business gives us the ability to hire and invest in our people and we look forward to even more growth in 2024
Our culture and our team is a differentiator and people that have been to our office have been able to see that firsthand
And so we are very excited how do we educate consumers, how do we educate real estate agents, how do we help LOs succeed and all of those things
As I said multiple times before, the dividend will be paid out in good times and tougher times and is paying out in the year like 2023, should give complete confidence to the industry and to the market that it will continue going forward
Amidst the doom and gloom that many others have espoused during 2023, we were pleased with our operational performance during Q4 and for the entire year
Volume and margins should be higher, but even whether they are or not, UWM will be successful and dominate with technology and service
And I am confident 2024 will be a better year in this industry than 2023
Fourth and the point I am most proud of is unlike other mortgage companies, we have continued to invest in our people and grow our team
So, I think 22 to 28 is a good guidance
So overall, I think we are – I can’t go into all the details, but I think we are off to a great, great start this year
But when impacts potentially happen, that creates opportunity for the best real estate agents, the best brokers to take advantage of it and create a new opportunity to grow their business
Help more consumers because by the way, brokers are better for consumers
And I think, like I said in the call, 2024 should be a great year
I think 80 to 105 is a good guidance
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Also, I’ve always said the toughest mortgage environment that the lowest you’d ever see our margin would be 75 to 100 basis points, and I’ve been guiding towards those numbers for a while now
While our fourth quarter and full year GAAP results were negatively impacted by the significant Q4 market rate declines and resulting impact to the estimated fair value of our MSRs, our operational income before considering changes in the fair value of MSRs increased significantly in Q4 and for the full year
I look at it, it’s actually just people reporting numbers incorrectly
It’s not going to get worse than it was
There is a lot of reasons that purchases slowed down
And so those loans actually took a bigger write-down, which is why we had a bigger write-off than most people in the fourth quarter
Therefore, they’re not able to handle the volume
I think the interest rates as we saw such a massive decline in the fourth quarter, which hit the MSRs as you know, a lot of it has come back up
It’s just they’re downright wrong, and they run poor companies, sorry to tell you that
It’s kind of like everyone kind of feels not only rates will drop a little bit, but also inventory will open up a little bit
It’s becoming that much harder to catch up given our relentless effort to continuously improve
So when you get out of volume when refis come and rates drop, they slow it down by adding margin
But the truth is, it’s really hard to compete
But when rates get down to the low 6s or high 5s, I think you’ll see a frenzy of activity
   

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