Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Improved conversion from automation mechanically reduces up-funnel costs associated with customer acquisition and data associated with generating the rate offer
This type of rapid improvement, along with increasing automation and efficiency, gives me confidence that our forward progress in this domain is unparalleled
We're excited for the new year and optimistic for what it holds for Upstart
This is amazing progress against our long-term goal of a five-day close and already dramatically better than the industry average of more than five weeks
And even while becoming more efficient, we've laid the groundwork to become a more resilient and diversified company that can thrive through a wide range of economic conditions
I think we're up -- I think despite the near-term noise, I think we're all very optimistic about 2024 as a year
We recently crossed our first $5 million in cumulative HELOC originations and our month-to-month growth is quite encouraging
Improved efficiency sets us up well for a return to profitable growth in the future
We're particularly excited about rapid progress in our first home lending product, a HELOC
Despite the difficult lending environment, we delivered solid results to end the year with revenue up 4% sequentially and our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA
Today and in the coming years, we are increasing our innovation on the money supply and have a healthy head start in this area
We're confident that steady focus on the auto vertical will be rewarded once interest rates begin to decline
Our contribution margin, a non-GAAP metric, which we define as revenue from fees, minus variable costs for borrower acquisition, verification, and servicing as a percentage of revenue from fees came in at 63% in Q4, just ahead of guidance and up 10 percentage points from last year
As Dave highlighted, we continue to benefit from high levels of loan processing automation and fraud modeling efficiency, achieving another new high in percentage of loans fully automated at 89%
Altogether, Q4 GAAP net loss was $42 million, while adjusted EBITDA was positive $1 million, both just ahead of guidance
Confident in the belief that this will always lead to the best long-term outcome for our business
And when it does, we continue to have conviction that we will be very well positioned to capitalize
We believe process automation is a durable advantage for Upstart that creates an obviously better user experience
And I would just also highlight, we've shown, I think, some pretty amazing ability to automate credit origination entirely separate from whose credit model is being used and that itself has a lot of value to it
So, we feel pretty good about that
Taken together, net revenue for Q4 came in at $140 million, above our guidance and up 4% from the prior quarter
And I think that we're pretty optimistic we'll be able to do that
So, yes, I think -- I'll reiterate what we said in prior cycles, which is I think a rough rule of thumb for run rate, if half of our origination volume was supported by committed capital, we think that's a good start
We are optimistic that our ongoing partnership efforts with the institutional funding markets will become increasingly constructive over the course of the coming year, should these macro trends fold
We're very excited about our HELOC product has been one that is actually very popular in high rate environments like we have today
And this is really aimed at being able to give the best product to the person with all the right trade-offs in one really fast efficient experience
We made strides in personal lending and in our auto business
Let me share six areas where we've made significant progress recently and why I believe they'll lead us to a bigger and brighter future
Though we expect this number to vary quarter-to-quarter, the long-term trend has been clear, and it's a big win for us
Number three, strengthening our core
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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With continued R&D portfolio charge-offs in line with expectations and a downward revision to the outlook of our risk capital co-investments, reflecting the deterioration in the prime borrower loan performance
And so it has been disappointing to see how the primary borrower segments are now quickly following suit and extending the strain of the current environment
Looking ahead, we remain cautious about the near-term outlook for our business and we'll continue to operate responsibly in this environment
Net interest income was negative $13 million in Q4
In contrast, high interest rates made 2023 a difficult year for auto lenders
With respect to the operating sort of future of the business, we have guided a negative EBITDA for Q1
I think there's probably two components to call out, and one of them certainly is what you're describing, which is I think, usually in Q1, you run into a bit of a slump in borrower demand as you get into tax refund season, and we're certainly anticipating that
We're certainly aware that having a volatile sort of source of revenue has its downsides for sure
Once the economy inevitably normalizes and lending becomes fashionable again, I believe it will be difficult for others to catch up with us
We completed the full year with net revenue of $514 million down 39% from 2022, a contribution margin of 63%, up 14 percentage points from the prior year and adjusted EBITDA of negative $17 million, representing a negative 3% adjusted EBITDA margin versus 4% a year earlier
Adjusted earnings per share was negative $0.11 based on a diluted weighted average share count of 85.6 million
I guess two questions are, when do you expect that to maybe bottom out and begin growing again? And then secondarily, is there a business risk that your auto customers get turned off because your approval rates are quite a bit lower than they were
One of them is the seasonality itself, which is just -- it's a headwind to volumes for a quarter or so
The funding markets continue to be oversaturated with assets on offer in the secondary markets, largely coming from banks who continue to reduce the size of their balance sheet through asset sales
The specific thing we're calling out on this chart is that in updating the forecast methodology of this chart we realized we were making a calculation error in the old way that we've been using that resulted in us overestimating the forecast of the expected returns on this chart
So, I think that's really contributed to an environment where the volume is down
This trend stands in contrast to the flagging level of disposable income, which on a real per capita basis peaked before last summer and has since languished
So, that sort of suggests there's a bit of mania or some form of mania maybe when someone has too much cash and inability to spend it that they develop some habits that don't make sense long-term and then they recover from them
Without question, 2023 was a challenging year for both Upstart and the lending industry and we're glad to be done with it
As noted, we believe rising delinquencies are now making their way over to the primary and more affluent segments of the borrower base, which is causing us to increase the conservatism in our loan pricing for those borrowers
   

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