Earnings Sentiment

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Earnings Call Transcript Word Cloud

     

Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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So as an industry, I think we still have room to improve in terms of profitability and that's what we have been working for
So, it is just natural for a well-structured company that has an infrastructure, a strong brand and the outlet they should have a return of about 20%
And for the current quarter, we expect Ultracargo to continue its good operating performance, but with fewer spot sales marginally reducing its results
And specifically at Ipiranga as we have been saying we have some paths of improvement in our position that will help us get closer to the 20% return rate
Luiz I think we have some positive points that allow us to believe that we can go back to the 20% return rate and the industry has been at a level before in the past
And this we have been doing really well
Moving on to Slide number 5 to talk about another excellent quarter of Ultragaz
You have a good cash generation and your results are improving more and more
Truck cargo's EBITDA totaled BRL 173 million in the quarter, a growth of 27% year-over-year due to higher capacity occupancy with profitability gains, spot sales, higher tariffs and productivity and efficiency gains despite higher expenses
So I want to hear from Linden, I know that this is not the utmost goal of everything but I believe that we have better operations now in a more balanced market and your value proposition after the turnaround is finished and your value proposition is very consistent and positive
The higher EBITDA mainly reflects two factors: first, margins benefited from the inventory gains caused by the increase in fuel costs throughout the quarter
And this scenario started to change in quarter three and then we had some inventory gains and better market conditions
This growth is mainly explained by efficiency and productivity initiatives implemented in the last quarters, by better sales mix and by inflation pass-through despite higher expenses
And now with a healthier network, I imagine that there will be a positive impact on the receivables of Ipiranga overall
But you're right certainly we have room to improve further in Ipiranga's operations
We already talked about the margin with some very good information
For the fourth quarter considering the current scenario of product supply and no significant impact of inventories, we expect a profitability measured in EBITDA per cubic meter above that of the last 12 months and continued recovery of the return levels of the industry
Congratulations on your strong results
We are looking at our business prioritizing the highest returns on service stations, because this brings us a healthier relationship
So do you think it makes sense to think of this evolution as a positive indicator looking forward? Also considering your brand strategy, I think this positive value proposition will increase the opportunity to explore your brand
And in quarter three, these are the optimistic players left the market and this created an additional demand, which ended up being met by the largest companies which were better structured and had more inventory
Recurring EBITDA was BRL1,445 million in the quarter 199% higher year-over-year
Of course, this will improve collection by the government and it will also improve the level play field
In addition, to the normalization of product supply the third quarter result benefited from inventory gains
Truck cargo's net revenues were BRL 264 million in this third quarter, 18% higher year-over-year as a result of spot sales, higher cubic meters sold and higher tariffs
We have tax efficient
Ultragaz EBITDA totaled BRL 453 million, 36% higher year-over-year
The company's average installed capacity was 10,59,000 cubic meters in the third quarter of 2023 and a 11% growth year-over-year
We are making investments raising the bar of quality because of the reasons we mentioned before, because we won points of sale that have the highest potential
Moving now to Slide 6 to talk about another great quarter of Ultracargo
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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So you had a consistent loss of share not just for Ipiranga but for the main – the three main businesses in the industry – in the three main companies in the industry
And this is due to issues related with supply -- the supply issues that we had in the first half of this year
And that adjustment will cause a major loss of inventory for distributors including ourselves
Volumes sold in the quarter decreased 2% year-over-year with a 3% reduction in the Otto cycle and a 1% reduction in diesel mainly due to the strategy of lower sales to the spot market during this period
But there are also risks for this environment
As you may have noted, the fuel distribution sector has had more volatile results in recent quarters
So this increases the entrance of products, so we should have an inventory loss because we should see a price reduction in Brazil shortly in the future, because it doesn't make sense to have a price which is not higher than the international price
The other operating results line totaled negative BRL178 million in the quarter in line with the third quarter of 2022
We have problems with counterfeit products that we need to fight together as an industry
But I want to go back to the topic of the share because until the first – the end of the first quarter there was as you said there was excess product in the market, excess molecules
The second factor was the normalization of the commercial environment in the third quarter of 23% due to a more regular product supply in the market which affected the second quarter results
Investments from continuing operations totaled BRL380 million in this third quarter, 27% lower than that of the third quarter of '22, due to lower investments at Ipiranga partially offset by higher investments at Ultracargo
But having said this, indeed, our main drivers here are the risk and the return that we expect from those projects
And just an additional comment Monique in the first half we had an excess of products in the market
And what we also have missed
And now in the second half, there seems to be a recovery in the share and we talked about the imports from Russia but this loss of share also took place in the Otto cycle
So I'd say, it is normal to have slightly lower numbers and that is an reflection -- retraction in quarter four
Our leverage went from 2.1x in June 2023 to 1.4x in September 2023, the lowest level of the last 10 years
Maybe we're talking about slightly lower numbers than what was planned
What we did not see during this period you talked about the margin
   

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