Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Investment performance across our alternatives platform was strong in 2023, with liquid strategies outperforming their benchmarks and private strategies generating attractive absolute performance
If you look at our pipeline, it's healthy and as strong as it's been since we closed the deal in private credit in particular, and OHA is in the market launching Olin, which is a dedicated senior private lending fund, and that's a part of the market where demand has been strong
Rowe Price field support, combined with OHA's long-term track record in private credit and relationships with issuers will lead to success with both OCredit and follow-on products
Investment performance improved, and we advanced important work to ensure our firm is positioned for future growth
So in light of that, I think we're pretty confident that we will have a better year in 2024 than we had in 2023, and I think we'll build momentum throughout the course of the year
We have a long and solid track record of putting clients first and pursuing excellence
As we near our 88th anniversary, I am confident that we will build on this tradition, delivering compelling value for our clients, our associates and our shareholders
First and foremost, target date, we had an excellent year in 2023, we expect another strong year in 2024
Our active ETF business is gaining traction, with assets under management over $2.7 billion at the end of January
to enhance our ability to expand and retain relationships with pre-retiree and retiree clients by providing tax-aware retirement income and Social Security claiming strategies
This acquisition demonstrates our commitment to broadening and evolving our already strong retirement capabilities and deepens our position as a retirement leader
But even despite that, we're pretty confident that we'll see OHA building momentum in 2024, and we expect an acceleration in flows this year
And when we combine all of that with some early-stage sales momentum from some of our strategic initiatives, I'm confident that this will be a better year
But if you look at the underlying performance of OHA strategies, it's very strong
And if you look at our notified terminations or if you look at our at risk, as we go into 2024, I feel like we're in a meaningfully better position than we were going into 2023
First, the investment strategies with the most substantial outflows in 2022 and 2023 had much better performance in 2023, that should translate into lower client redemptions and improve sales over time
So collectively, when we look at the contribution from OHA in 2024 and beyond, we're confident that it will build and become more substantial over the course of this year and years to come
I think you highlighted some gross sales trends in the fourth quarter improving, plus we know investment performance has gotten better
We are seeing improved performance in large-cap growth funds and expect that the rebound in 2023 will reduce redemptions in 2024
And as you know, we do have a strong balance sheet and kind of given the right opportunity, we certainly would have the potential to outspend cash flow, but that's on our base case
We're seeing improving gross sales in our Individual Investor channel, with Q4 having the highest gross sales of any quarter over the last two years
We saw positive momentum for net flows in our US Wealth Management Platform segment in Q4
We have a strong fixed income team and a global platform with a number of strategies with good results across plus sectors and in the core, including global multi-sector and QM bond
This strong financial position allows us continued flexibility to support the annual dividend and to pursue opportunistic share buybacks, while also strategically investing in seed capital or M&A as opportunities arise
We also have a pretty meaningful stable value and floating rate franchise, which really benefited from the rate environment as people wanted to be short duration and rates were rising in 2022, and we saw the other side of that a little bit in 2023
And as Rob mentioned, the sectors where I think we have a very strong performance
We are grateful for their hard work, and are confident that together we will return the firm to organic growth
After retreating in the third quarter, both equity and fixed-income markets rebounded in the latter part of the fourth quarter, resulting in strong calendar year returns in most indices
Across asset classes, we delivered solid investment performance, with 64% of our funds beating their peer group medians for the year
I would just add to that, to the extent that taxes come back into view for folks as the year winds on, our municipal team is also very strong, and we have some interesting product in that area as well
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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I'd say it's a very competitive market for private credit in the wealth channel and nontraded BDCs and the benign credit environment made it difficult to differentiate on performance
2023 was down from $8.02 in 2022 from lower average AUM and investment advisory revenue and higher expenses
Our Q4 investment advisory revenue of about $1.5 billion was higher than Q4 of last year, but the $5.7 billion earned for the full year was lower than 2022 overall based on the trend in average assets
I think -- look, I think we're underestimated in terms of our fixed income capabilities
January retirement date flows were just shy of $3 billion
My question is on the fixed income flows, which inflected negatively in the quarter
I'd say what has changed at the margin last year was that the buyback was more muted given lower free cash flow after the dividend
During the fourth quarter, we had a handful of large redemptions in our sub-advisory and institutional channels that elevated net outflows
Importantly, as Rob referenced, our team engagement is back to pre-pandemic levels
While 2023 was a challenging year for us with substantial net outflows, it also brought progress
   

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