Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We are very pleased with our first quarter results
And I'm very optimistic about our future there
I'm very pleased with our strong first quarter results
We beat our guidance across the board and saw another quarter of solid sales with contracts, up 40% in units and 42% in dollars compared to last year
We've been thrilled with the business there
In our first quarter, we delivered 1,927 homes at an average price of approximately $1 million, generating record first quarter home sales of $1.93 billion, up 10.4% in dollars, compared to the first quarter of fiscal 2023
Our adjusted gross margin was 28.9%, 90 basis points better than guidance and 140 basis points better than last year's first quarter
We compete at our price point in our locations with small local and regional builders who have lost their banking relationships with the regional banks who are undercapitalized, who cannot write the big check and we have an easier time finding the land and that's just proven out by the 20 to 25 land deals I get every Sunday night, that I still review that have good, solid returns
SG&A expense at 11.9% of home sales revenues was 20 basis points better than last year's first quarter and 50 basis points better than guidance
In addition to greater fixed cost leverage from higher revenues, we continued to benefit from cost reduction initiatives we've taken over the past several years
We have great optimism for what's coming this spring with a really good start in January and February
Our homes are really good and attractive and well decorated and well-appointed and well designed for today's lifestyles and interests
With the outperformance in our first quarter and a strong start to the spring selling season, we are raising our full-year guidance across all of our key home building metrics
We're very confident in it
While we're building spec, as I mentioned, in all of our different price points, -- there is -- I think, the confidence we got from having more affordable luxury communities that naturally would have more spec opportunities, also helped us move this strategy along
Demand in the first quarter was solid
Another component of our outperformance in the first quarter, Doug touched on earlier in that our QMI gross margin came in a little better than we expected -- I'm sorry, the spec -- excuse me, the spec QMI is our internal term for quick move in home
Demand in our first quarter steadily improved as the quarter progressed, following the normal seasonal pattern
December was stronger than November and January was significantly stronger than December
Gross margins feel very good right now at this level
The strong demand has continued through the first three weeks of February
We saw particular strength in our Pacific region, including all of California and Seattle and also in Las Vegas, all of Texas, Denver and from Atlanta up through Boston, Demand was solid across all product types as well, with affordable luxury accounting for 45% of our units and 34% of dollars, luxury 36% and 49% and Active Adult 19% and 17%
And right now, there is a very, very strong market for our spec homes that can be delivered faster, particularly those homes that we may put on the market at frame that still allows the client the opportunity to get the design studio and fix the finishes to suit their lifestyle
We are pleased that we have been able to continue taking advantage of healthy demand while managing our incentives
All of these factors highlight the financial strength of our more affluent customers
During the quarter, we once again benefited from our strategy of increasing our supply of spec homes, which represented approximately 50% of orders and 40% of deliveries in the first quarter
So our strategy has always been, as we got into the spec business that there would be a lower gross margin, but we're very pleased with how close it has been to the overall company's margin
This benefits our margins as design studio upgrades, tend to be highly accretive
And so I'm just really pleased with where we are
Our low cancellation rate speaks to the financial strength of our buyers, as well as the sizable deposits they make and how emotionally invested they become as they personalize their new Toll Brothers home
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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So in the first quarter, specs ran exactly 100 basis points below the full gross margin for the quarter
Additionally, consistent with the past several quarters, approximately 25% of our buyers paid all cash in the first quarter and the LTVs for buyers who took a mortgage dropped to approximately 67%, 200 basis points lower than our average over the prior four quarters
What triggered it was the historically tight resale market, and we realized there was a void there that we could fill
It's more difficult
And so we are still being cautious
We have come down in price
Douglas Yearley The cycle times are down a couple of months
What has changed from the perspective of the market or from Toll's positioning where this makes more sense now than it has maybe like historically, is this temporary because sales -- the retail market is really tight
So I think the drop you're seeing in the second-half of '24 to the low-9s is reflective of the future business at Toll
I know there's a mix impact in there
Our tax rate in the first quarter was 23% or about 300 basis points lower than guidance due to the accounting benefit of stock compensation deductions, which we do not expect to repeat at the same level for the rest of the year
Douglas Yearley Please understand our business strategy and our business modeling is for the spec business to have a lower gross margin
We have big contingencies on land development costs because we know land development costs are still running away from the industry a bit
The risk is less because there are land developers that feed us lots which makes the business easier
And let's not forget, even as rates do come down, which I think they will, and that market begins to modestly loosen up
So -- are there opportunities for bolt-on acquisitions, given that privates are really disadvantaged for many reasons, not to mention cost of capital
They will be modest because we're being careful, rates while they came down, they've ticked up a little bit
As we look at our second quarter we expect less Pacific and high-margin Mid-Atlantic deliveries
Write-offs in our home sales gross margin totaled $1.5 million in the quarter and were all associated with predevelopment costs on deals we are no longer pursuing
There is a flight to new that is not just because of unavailable inventory due to the lock-in effect, but because of the quality of that resale inventory, and that will continue even as rates come down and the resale market unlocks
   

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