Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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However, we continue to see early success across the breadth of that platform, both in transactions executed year-to-date and in the broad and granular medium-term pipeline
Fee income from our areas of focus more than doubled year-over-year as each individual offering continues to advance against our expectations and their collective benefit further differentiates our value proposition in the market
Average mortgage finance deposits were 128% of average mortgage finance loans, at the high end of our guidance and up from 108% last year, due to both continued success in capturing more of our clients' treasury business and the impacts of system-wide contraction in mortgage origination volume on their short-term credit needs
With the strategy risk and build risk behind us and all critical roles now filled with top requisite talent, we have a solid and financially resilient foundation from which to execute
Our industry-leading liquidity and capital position afford us a competitive advantage in this unique operating environment
TCE of 9.4% ranked first among the largest banks in the country and liquid assets of 28% allows our bankers to be front-footed in our clients' offices as we are well prepared to support the diverse and broad needs of our clients in what continues to be a challenging operating environment for all industries
I would note just generally on credit, we're quite pleased with the progression this quarter
In the current environment, which is putting material pressure on the industry's ability to grow net interest income, the firm was again able to deliver financial results through resolution of critical client needs with new products and services purpose built over the last two years
Our continued success is supporting clients across our platform has solidified our positioning as a full-service financial services firm
This quarter's financial results, but more importantly, market momentum earned through strong execution, suggest continued progress on the core components of long-term value creation
Total regulatory capital remains exceptionally strong relative to the peer group and our internally assessed risk profile
September was the highest month on record in the last two years for our new treasury business, including new operating accounts, indicative of becoming our clients' trusted financial partner
Our balance sheet metrics remain exceptionally strong
Gross segment revenues were up 14% year-over-year, the highest growth since the first quarter of 2022 and a result of realized treasury business awarded in prior quarters
Additionally, as I've detailed in the past, our clients' response to our proprietary onboarding tool, Initio, that provides significantly improved client journeys through faster and automated account opening and onboarding has exceeded expectations
Total revenue increased $14.5 million or 5% when compared to Q3 2022 with year-over-year results benefiting from an 85% increase in non-interest income, coupled with disciplined balance sheet repositioning into higher earning assets associated with our long-term strategy
Total revenue increased modestly linked quarter to $278.9 million as both net interest income and non-interest revenue improved slightly over previous year-to-date highs experienced last quarter
Clients are also increasingly benefiting from our still emerging investment banking capabilities
The office portfolio has solid underwriting with the current average LTV of 57% and 90% recourse as well as strong market characteristics as over 73% is Class A properties and over 71% located in Texas
I think that the platform to date has proven to be one that clients certainly value and one that we're quite optimistic is going to be able to achieve the growth targets that we've set out as we move into ‘24, ‘25
Investment banking and trading income of $29.2 million increased 6% linked quarter, which was our fourth consecutive record quarter, since launching the investment banking business last year
And so it's a great client
The substantial investments made over the last two years to deliver a higher-quality operating model, supporting a defined set of scalable businesses is resulting in the intended outcomes
The entire platform contributed to our now fifth consecutive quarter of positive operating leverage as year-over-year quarterly adjusted PPNR grew 18% in the third quarter
Investment banking and trading income had a fourth consecutive record quarter with revenue up 6% quarter-over-quarter to $29.2 million, which is comprised of revenue from all areas of the Investment Bank
So, it has a huge benefit to attract and maintain clients
We continue to successfully execute against the strategy, Matt, of moving upmarket and serving stronger and larger clients with the strategy similar to what we have across the commercial franchises that we want to be relevant to those clients through a wide range of products and services, have done so originally through the capture of more of the treasury wallet as well as the deposit wallet
We will drive attractive through-cycle shareholder returns with both higher quality earnings and a lower cost of capital, as we scale high-value businesses through increased client adoption, improved client journeys and realized operational efficiencies, all objectives that we made significant headway on this year
We've proven in the past that we can repurchase shares responsibly and very efficiently most recently
Sustained execution on non-interest income initiatives will, over time, enable revenue stability even as near-term net interest income expansion moderates
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Our clients' new origination volume also remain suppressed
As expected, further net interest income expansion was pressured by industry-wide trends related to rising deposit costs and slowing credit demand
Overall, market and volume estimates from professional forecasters suggest total originations to decrease approximately 20% in the fourth quarter, with full year expectations showing a decline of nearly 35% in total origination volume
The recognition of system-wide funding cost increases has resulted in net interest income pressure as we anticipated earlier this year
However, given the previously mentioned client level trends, we expect the ratio of the average mortgage finance deposits to average mortgage financial loans to increase in the fourth quarter, further pressuring the firm's net interest margin
Wealth management income decreased 3% year-over-year, in large part due to continued client preference from managed liquidity options given market rates
So professional forecasters are now calling for originations to be down about 35% across the industry for the year, which would suggest we'll be down by about 25% for the year to look for a full year average balance somewhere in the low-4s, of off a 5.3 full year average balance last year
The same commitment to our long-term strategy, coupled with a historically challenging environment for our mortgage clients, resulted in us lowering PPNR expectations in Q4 to below Q4 2022 levels
We think that ratio could go up to about 150% from that, which has some near-term negative impact on NII and margin
The mortgage market -- we also said in the comments the next six months can be the most challenged in the last 15 years
As a reminder, Q4 is a seasonally weak quarter for mortgage finance deposits as escrow balances related to tax payments are remitted beginning in late-November and run through January
As you know, Q4 and Q1 are the seasonally weakest origination quarters from a home buying perspective, and we expect the next six months to be amongst the toughest the industry has seen in the last 15 years
And our current outlook would suggest we'll be below a four-quarter trailing average in its fourth quarter
You continue to reiterate these targets, but consensus continues to reflect something in some cases, much lower than that
Brady Gailey I think one of the most difficult things to -- I think one of the most difficult things to forecast is just this investment banking line
Despite broad-based early success, we expect revenue trends to be inconsistent in the near term, the same as all firms, as we work to translate early momentum into a sustainable contributor to future earnings
Any more colors on that outperformance that we just saw? And then, Matt, you mentioned industry expectations for originations, down 20% in the fourth quarter
I know you guys have done buybacks in the past, but I know there is a lot of uncertainty in today's backdrop
I think the question that I think we've gotten now for the past year, perhaps longer is how do you meet the targets in 2025, particularly when it seems like there's going to be some further pressure on margin and especially in the warehouse, just given the kind of a challenge outlook, Matt, just sort of your commentary on PPNR levels being a little bit lower year-on-year in the fourth quarter
Net interest margin decreased 16 basis points this quarter and net interest income was flat at $232.1 million, predominantly as a function of the deposit mix shift into interest-bearing deposits and higher quarter-over-quarter deposit costs, partially offset by improved loan yield and increased cash balances
   

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