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| We sit in a really good lead time delivery position throughout the entire network in terms of kind of I'd say back to probably some of the best lead time delivery service levels since I've been in the business going back 12 years now |
| These investments help us to fare better than the overall market |
| There are several key takeaways worth noting that help us navigate the challenging business environment in 2023 and that have set us up to emerge an even stronger company and competitor as business conditions improve |
| The actions we took in 2023 and our priorities for this year should enable us to outperform the market again in 2024 and to achieve meaningful share gains and expanded margins and profitability as the pool industry conditions improve |
| Second, we ended 2023 in a strong competitive position with leading market share in all product categories in which we compete, and energized dealer network and greater consumer engagement, all supporting Latham's ability to capture additional market share as industry conditions improve |
| Additionally, the value proposition of fiberglass products provides an excellent opportunity for consumers to become pool owners and gives Latham an excellent platform to drive accelerated growth |
| By closing facilities, streamlining operations, and accelerating our value engineering and lean manufacturing initiatives, we have structurally reduced our costs and increased our capacity, giving us the ability to considerably increase our profit margins once volumes recover |
| Lastly, we strengthened our financial position in 2023, ending the year with a record cash position of just over $100 million providing substantial financial flexibility and demonstrating our ability to efficiently manage through difficult market conditions |
| In summary, Latham exited a year which saw significant decline in new in-ground pool starts and has entered 2024, which strengthened market positioning and the resources that quickly take advantage of the eventual rebound |
| So the ability to ramp faster is a lot better |
| This compares with 21% and 18% in 2022 and 2021 respectively, a clear indication of our leadership position in fiberglass driving this ongoing conversion progress |
| Since 2019, we have grown our fiberglass product sales at a compounded annual rate of about 15%, and we have several strategic initiatives in process to leverage the share gains we have achieved to date in states like Texas and the Carolinas to further penetrate the sand states, notably California, Florida, Arizona, and Nevada, where concrete pools continue to dominate |
| That is due to a 2023 with solid cash flow generation, augmented by a significant reduction in net working capital, especially inventory, and all that gave us the luxury to have a cash position of $102.8 million at the end of the year |
| We've got a much stronger vendor base and supply chain stood up, both where and how we store materials and diversity of the base, which will enable us to turn quickly if things pivot |
| In 2023, we had approximately 300 fiberglass brand dealers who sold at least 5 pools, which is about 100 more than we had in 2019 and speaks to the positive momentum for both fiberglass pools and for Lakeland's expansive dealer network |
| We also remain very confident in the long-term growth opportunities we see not only in our business, but in the industry overall |
| The long-term fundamentals of our industry are very compelling |
| Our marketing spend continues to yield very positive results |
| So good position |
| Our integrated marketing programs that inform and educate the consumer and feature regional builders have been successful in driving traffic, along with our robust tools that give homeowners the ability to design, plan, and actually visualize how a new pool will look in their outdoor space |
| Continue to gain additional operating efficiencies through our ongoing value engineering and lean manufacturing initiatives, and maintain a strong balance sheet |
| We were pleased that our fourth quarter results came in slightly ahead of our guidance range, capping a year in which we focused on several structural cost saving initiatives to mitigate the impact of another year of lower pool starts |
| As we think about Latham, right, we're extremely well positioned to continue to outperform the overall market and drive that continued acceleration in fiberglass penetration as a total of the new in-ground pool starts like we discussed earlier today |
| Just kind of go back and look at the numbers we were running in the '21 timeframe, we've got a lot of strength from a positioning standpoint in all of the facilities |
| As you have heard, Latham has entered 2024 in a very strong financial position |
| And measured by Latham, our proprietary AI powered measurement tool for pool covers and liners, has been met with very positive dealer response and should continue to help drive demand for these product lines as we continue to roll it out through 2024 |
| We're in a really good position capacity wide throughout the entire network |
| It also was another year that showed the resilience of our business and Latham's ability to both outperform the overall market decline and to generate substantial cash flow from operations |
| Within that context, you can expect Latham to continue to reduce structural costs, while maintaining investments in future growth and capability, so that we are positioned to rapidly capture share as pool starts increase, which we anticipate will occur in 2025 |
| In addition to repaying $13 million of debt in 2023, we paid down another $18 million in debt earlier this month and we anticipate generating positive operating cash flow in 2024 |
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| Softness in demand was the key factor in the 23% decline in in-ground pool sales |
| By product line, Latham's in-ground swimming pool sales for the full year were $298 million, down 23% year-over-year |
| Net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023 were $91 million compared to $108 million in Q4 of 2022, reflecting lower volumes |
| So and I'm getting that off of a $37 million to $13 million revenue decline with EBITDA down 23% to 15% |
| Liner sales of a $128 million were down 16%, while cover sales of a $141 million declined 11%, reflecting softer homeowner demand in the current economic environment, partially offset by a pickup in demand for automatic safety covers |
| Shaun Calnan And then the midpoint of the guidance is down 11% year-over-year |
| new in ground pool installation market for 2023, which we estimate to have declined by 30% in 2023 compared to 2022 |
| Margin headwinds continue to be partially offset by benefits from cost reduction programs, as well as our lean driven site consolidation initiatives, where we have reduced the number of production sites, while maintaining capacity |
| And look, we're managing the business to what we believe to be a decline of about 15% on average here in the U.S |
| Shaun Calnan Just first, your assumption on new pool construction is a bit lower than most of your peers |
| As we enter 2024, we are seeing a return to a normalized seasonal sales cadence reflecting historical backlog levels and distributors taking a cautious position early in the season |
| We do not expect the projected declines in interest rates to occur quickly enough to impact our peak pool building season in 2024, and therefore we are managing to an approximate 15% decline in new pool starts in 2024 |
| Our conversations with channel partners and colleagues in the field and at recent trade shows, as well as our own data, indicate a high-level of consumer interest in pool ownership, but buying decisions are being delayed, particularly by those who plan to finance the purchases |
| What's going on there? Is there a stepped up investment in SG&A? Do you expect a lot of gross margin pressure? I know you expect to finish even |
| Michael Francis So I'm just making sure I get this straight, because if I take both liners and covers down about 4% that has in-ground pools in my model down about 15% |
| And that didn't pay out in prior year that is a year-over-year headwind |
| Excluding noncash stock-based compensation, SG&A was $92 million a decrease of $8 million or 8% |
| And look, it's back to the expected 15% decline in the market, and I think it's fair to say that we're probably taking a little bit more conservative approach |
| We haven't traditionally provided a guidance specifically around gross margin, but I'll give you the key building blocks here, right? So obviously, like with my prior answer to EBITDA margins, also gross margins will be primarily impacted by the fact that we are planning for a year with lower volumes |
| Did you say that liners and covers are going to be down low single digit to mid-single digits? Scott Rajeski On a volume basis |
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