Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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This smaller balanced loans segment offers premium unlevered yields, and we believe this increased ROE will be very accretive to shareholders in the coming years, albeit on less equity than in our large loan business
So thank you, and we're excited about the future of the company
It puts us in a really good shape through to combat this next eight months of relenting pressure from the Fed on the complex
It is notable about the light at the end of the tunnel, the conduit markets are strong, and we've had a good launch this quarter, the credit spreads are coming in, the market's anticipating rates coming down, and AAAs have come in probably 60 basis points, 70 basis points across the board just in the last three months
Our conduit Starwood Mortgage Capital helped drive our outperformance in the quarter, completing five securitizations, totaling $467 million, which represented 61% of their securitization volume for the year
We continue to like the attractive risk reward of power and midstream assets
And we needed to find a way to be able to do this at the right cost, but we think it's a very large market, and we think it prices better than the large loan business
But we bought $260 million of loans out of these CLOs, which I think is very good for our platform
Since inception of this portfolio, we have sold 30 assets, totaling $412 million for DE gains of $144 million, demonstrating our ability to successfully acquire and reposition transitional real estate
So that's additional earnings power as we've rationalized and redeploy the capital into things that could earn a substantial return on investment
They're not quite as profitable because it's a five-year deal instead of a 10-year deal, but it will help volumes, and we think we can grow there
And with funding costs remaining steady, we were, again, able to earn above historic levered returns in this segment in 2023, and we expect to continue to grow this segment in 2024
Finally, our low leverage and uniquely diversified business model that was built to outperform in volatile markets has allowed STWD to earn the only positive total return in our sector since the beginning of COVID
We've done that, I think, $1.1 billion of reinvestments on 53 or 56 different loans over the life of these three CLOs that we have, which has been very good for us
So we've been really excited about having a consistent book that we think has some upside this year as we're seeing some green shoots in CMBS
The property is operationally cash flow positive and has 4.5 years of remaining WALT
We're delighted that we can invest incremental capital in the energy space right now, which is providing a very attractive double-digit yields
The theme park is doing really well
And the best we can do when we lend is get our capital back in our coupons while we have infinite opportunity with well-positioned assets to make more money, frankly, if they were to fall into our lap
The strong quarter was highlighted by contributions across our businesses, although it likely does not constitute a run rate
We had a great fourth quarter, with the first quarter starting off really well
So reinvestment is good for us
I hope we have continued reasonably good news, and I look forward for this company to go back on offense
We started Starwood Solutions, and I hope it becomes a meaningful contributor to our earnings growth going forward
And when we come back to the market, we expect better pricing than the market because we've continued to do that
In addition to low leverage, our liquidity position remains strong today at $1.2 billion
Barry knows this better than anybody, and it's why you're seeing a lot of data centers in place like Virginia where they can create more power
So the complexion of the portfolio is solid
2023 marks our highest origination volume year since we purchased the business from General Electric in 2018
Unlike many of our peers, we are actually still finding opportunities and playing here and there, taking through the opportunities that the team sees and it's – that is good news for us
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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office market outcomes as office pricing also has to deal with lower net effective rent, the persistence of work from home and a lack of liquidity in the office lending markets
New leases in some markets, given the supplier going negative
I wrote a colorful quote in our press release, but I do think it's worth noting that the real estate industry just has a balance sheet crisis
We were just an unintended consequence
Both transactions failed to materialize
And the real estate distribution caused this economic situation
That transaction was also unsuccessful
We are going to take some losses
In some cases, rents are negative
So if an asset is sort of too big of a drag and it's more of an opportunity fund play where it's not going to pay something for an awful long time, that will be difficult on DE in the shorter run
If the cycle continues, it could become one, if rates don't follow the forward curve, and we are aware and at our battle stations that this could get more difficult
Rina also mentioned we foreclosed on our first multifamily loan in the quarter, a $61 million loan on a recently built multi in the Pacific Northwest that has been slow to reach stabilized occupancy
I think the big problems you saw in total, we did $760 million of origination in 2023, we're aiming to beat that much earlier this year than I think that would have its tighter spreads on CMBS deals
But a material consequence for cities and municipalities as values drop and real estate values – real estate taxes based on values will come down and cities and municipalities won't be able to fund their police fireman, waste management and schools
And they would see that they are running the economy and the global markets and causing recession, both in Japan and now in parts of Europe
We will continue to evaluate options including adding capital and repositioning assets rather than quickly selling into a distressed market with seller financing that could put a longer term drag on earnings
So there is strain in the real estate markets
As you likely know, Greater DC has been the hardest hit by work from home with the majority of government employees still at home four years after COVID, making this long-term stable and consistent office market one of the most difficult to underwrite today
And the problem is they're in a Downtown environment, you can't create power
Those are two really tough markets right now
   

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