Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
As Dave will discuss, our balance sheet is strong and we’ve ample cash to expand our business
That's very good
However, for the full year 2023, strong pricing discipline and an improved business mix resulted in year-over-year construction gross margin improvement from 21.6% to 26%
In these markets, we feel our experience and reputation give us a sustainable competitive advantage
Based on our sales pipeline, we believe demand in all of these sectors will remain strong
We also have continued conviction in the ongoing growth of factory-built construction in the United States, which according to Modular Building Institute's most recent report now accounts for 6% of all new construction starts in North America, having tripled from 2% in 2015
And we've gotten some really good traction on with the segment of development
Sustained execution quality has contributed to the division's ability to maintain pricing levels and has contributed to the division's gross margin improvement
Dave Noble Look, the important thing is we feel like we've got a good value for that -- we paid a good price for that acquisition
Lastly, we closed the accretive Big Lake Lumber bolt-on acquisition in the fourth quarter and have successfully integrated it into our Glenbrook operation
It's an odd thing to say, but our sales pipeline, our backlog hasn't declined at all, it's remained really strong
And so if we can spread those public company costs and those corporate overhead costs over a bigger base, we think that will create a tremendous amount of shareholder value
We remain confident in the division's ability to maintain strong gross margins as revenues recover amid a stronger macroeconomic backdrop
I think it's amazing
We also closed a bolt-on acquisition in this segment in Q4 as Rick mentioned, which will bolster revenues in 2024
As of December 31, 2023, our consolidated balance sheet and liquidity were strong
We believe this is a temporary situation and are continuing our focus on the niche markets where we’ve built significant expertise and a strong reputation, including affordable and workforce housing, educational buildings and dormitories, and environmentally sustainable housing
So that's the good news
Last year, our Health care division, we found somebody to merge that with, and we think that transaction created a lot of shareholder value
But in general, the tone in the marketplace is better than it was 6 months ago, projects are going forward
We think that will create a tremendous amount of shareholder value
For right now, we think that will create a tremendous amount of shareholder value
We purchased Big Lake Lumber for a really good price from our standpoint
And we are working on additional acquisitions predominantly in our Construction division that we think will create a tremendous amount of value
We think our stock is very, very cheap
That's pretty well known in the marketplace
So that's what makes our solution a really great solution for those expensive hard to reach places
I would add that we're seeing a trend where there's really strong focus on solving workforce housing problems
And so it's something that we've adjusted to, and we think will get better over time
Despite some economic headwinds, which impacted our construction revenue all year, we continue to make progress across this operating segment in 2023
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Non-GAAP adjusted net income from continuing operations in Q4 was a negative $0.4 million
Non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations decreased to negative $0.1 million in Q4 from a positive $0.9 million in Q4 of '22
In the fourth quarter of 2023, our construction revenue and gross profit declined compared to the fourth quarter of 2022
Credit tightening in the second half of 2023was a contributing factor and caused delays in some commercial projects pushing revenue into 2024 and in some cases indefinitely
Segment non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA at our construction division decreased $0.7 million in Q4 this year, down from $2.9 million in Q4 of '22
Al Hill Yes, because that has -- reverse stock splits always have a negative connotation in my mind
Because of weak economy or because demand wasn't there, we're not seeing that
An issue we have is just lack of scale as a public company
And what we're seeing is that it's just taking longer, and it's more difficult for them to get the financing in place
Although the timing continues to be tampered by ongoing interest rate sensitivity
They're below NAV
So we think that trend is entirely sustainable, and it's just a problem that they were able to solve
So if we execute on some acquisitions, that problem goes away
What I would say is, credit conditions have gotten tighter
So essentially, that's like a negative goodwill
And I think the -- on the losing money, I think that's just a moment in time because we sold our Health care business
In Q4 2023, SG&A decreased by $1 million or 23.8% versus Q2 in '22
That's not something to worry about
As a percentage of revenue, SG&A decreased in Q4 22.8% versus 23.9% in Q4 of 2022
   

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