Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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And as we continue to focus on diligent cost-savings and process improvements in our Software segments, we expect margins to improve in 2024
Reflecting on the successful year we had it is impressive how well our company performed
We achieved the strong growth performance, while also increasing take rates by 22 basis points year-over-year to 2.43%
The combined evolution of our strategic priorities around win, engage, and scale through platforms led to the strong results we have seen in the fourth quarter
I'm not only referring to our strong financial performance but also acknowledging the strategic milestones that have strengthened our position in the market and paved the way for future growth, as we detailed in our Investor Day
I think 2022 was a year of a turnaround and I think 2023 we presented very solid results
This has a positive effect on financial expenses
Our new organizational structure aligns with each client segment, while it also strengthens key capabilities around engineering, product, marketing, and innovation, enhancing our ability to address client needs in a unique way
We believe the strong numbers are the result of our competitive advantages, around our distribution capabilities, our superior service and more and more the ability to offer more complete solutions to our clients
This growth in client base also resulted in healthy and profitable cohorts in all client tiers
These factors combined with a lower effective tax rate, resulted in adjusted net income increasing by almost three-fold year-over-year, with an adjusted net margin of 17.4%, up about 10 percentage points in the period
As we close 2023 and kick off 2024, I am more enthusiastic than ever about our business
As I will show on slide seven, this approach has resulted in profitable TPV growth with market share gains in the MSMB segment versus the overall markets
And there is a substantial potential to improve our unit economics, as we continue to engage the bids
The results we saw in our Financial Services segment in the fourth quarter reflect the success of this strategy around payments and banking
With a committed shareholder like Andre, a great team, and a strong business, we are well set to continue to advance our mission forward
We've brought our technology teams together, streamline how we work, and started to build a solid foundation that we all share, the strong platform
In summary, 2023 was a year of significant achievements and strategic advancements for us, and our fourth-quarter results are positioning us in a good place to deliver our 2024 and 2027 outlook
Reinforcing what Pedro already said, I believe we're well-positioned for a strong 2024 and 2027 outlook
Through sustainable cost optimization, we're setting the stage for more efficient and profitable operations
As you know, we've relaunched our working capital solution to SMBs in 2023 and have seen very positive initial results
However, our efficiency initiatives already started showing results with EBITDA margins in 2023, improving by 1.9 percentage points to 16.4%
Number one, our ability to penetrate Financial Services to the current installed software base, but also as we improve our go-to-market, improve our wholesales process, improve our value proposition around products
We closed the year with exceptional results, particularly in the fourth quarter when we accomplished a significant progress in our key strategic initiatives
We posted remarkable growth achieving a notable increase in MSMB TPV, both annually with MSMB TPV increasing 21% to BRL350 billion
Second, we're enhancing the product value proposition to seize the opportunity in the four key strategic verticals with gas stations and retail being the main focus for 2024
Our banking services also recorded impressive growth, with deposits reaching BRL6.1 billion by the end of December, a significant increase from 2022
And our adjusted net profit surged to BRL1.6 billion up 3.8 times from the previous year
Monetization improved substantially throughout the year, with MSMB take rates achieving 2.43% up 22 basis points year-over-year
More importantly, we continued to advance in our credit solution reaching our working capital portfolio of BRL309 million by the end of the year, with very encouraging results regarding the health of the portfolio and NPLs strictly under control
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Moving to slide 13, Software segment revenues decreased 3.5% year-over-year to BRL363 million, as a result of lower revenues from the enterprise business, which was down 16% in the period
Sequentially, software revenues decreased 6.4% due to lower yields on cash, as well as lower revenues from enterprise business
On a separate note, the Software segment faced challenges in 2023, particularly in non-strategic verticals where growth was lower
And here, I think especially on enterprise we had some negative effects on the quarter related from IAS 29, so hyperinflation especially in Argentina
As a result of this weaker top line, combined with one-time restructuring costs in the amount of BRL11.5 million, adjusted EBITDA decreased to BRL59 million in the quarter, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 16.2% compared with 20.5% in the third quarter of '23
The -- did the sequential decline, I think it's a little bit more than we expected, given the declining rates
Sequentially, this represented a net addition of 192,000 clients, lower compared to the previous quarters, mainly as a result of our strategic shift towards larger clients in the hubs and the fact that we have caught up to growth levels in the micro-segments
Key Accounts TPV decreased 17.6% year-over-year to BRL15 billion
In the fourth quarter, we saw a slight decline of 6 basis points compared to the previous quarter, but that was already expected and purely a result of seasonality
When we look at your guidance growing below 7% in 2024, what do you think are the main challenges and opportunities here? And especially thinking that third-party services and personnel picked up this quarter
And the second one, just trying to understand because the stock is down 10% in the aftermarket
Take rates were lower versus the third quarter as the natural result of seasonality in the fourth quarter, which always presents higher debit volumes
But again, it is still really soon and we're taking the cautious approach here
In regards to take rates, the vast majority of the decline was a result of a mix, credit versus debit
The decrease in growth levels compared to the previous quarters is mainly due to the end of the migration of Ton clients to our full banking solution
Most of that will most likely be driven by efficiency in OpEx and loss from top line of the software standalone, like Lia said
And longer-term, we need to be mindful about the credit book
These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the company's expectations
As you can see, 90 days NPLs are still really low at 0.24, and NPLs from 15 to 90 days are still at 2%
Of course, longer-term, if rates really go down in a significant manner, a smaller player has incentives to reduce prices and then the others will most likely follow suit over time, but we don't see that happening in the short to medium term
   

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