Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Our network business grew 37% year-over-year and our paid O&O business grew 20% sequentially over Q3
The scale of our O&O business gives us very good insights into the challenges and opportunities faced by our network partners with respect to both buy side and monetization dynamics
We're seeing pretty good profitability
We have excellent technology, solid assets and strong relationships with our network and advertising partners
Together, our organic businesses provide a nice degree of consistent profitability and they also present opportunities for high margin growth as they seek to attract more organic users
Looking forward to 2024 and beyond, I believe System1 is a very rejuvenated, refocused and well capitalized company set up for a return to solid growth
These businesses are strong cash flow generators and have a relatively light engineering and overhead footprint within our organization
While some of this growth is attributable to typical Q4 seasonality, our technology improvements and rapid incorporation of AI into our RAMP platform are having a materially positive effect on our overall business
If that happens, which we're hoping, frankly for System1, we hope it will happen, we should see some pretty positive effects on the buy side of our business, keeping in mind that a lot of our business is going to be contextual based advertising, not really reliant on third-party cookies
We believe we've got a nice business ready to scale
We're happy about that
We also feel well positioned to capitalize on an anticipated reacceleration in digital ad spending in the latter half of this year
However, as always, we welcome the volatility and believe RAMP is well positioned to take advantage of any choppiness in the advertising markets
In addition to the momentum that we've realized from our technology improvements and stronger balance sheet, we're anticipating some tailwinds from market changes as Google deprecates cookies within its industry leading Chrome browser
As Michael mentioned during his remarks, we remain incredibly bullish about the growth potential of our network advertising business, especially given the investments in additional features and tools for our RAMP platform that we are now making available to our partners
On the technology side, we have also made substantial improvements to our RAMP platform over both the past quarter year
We are also bullish on our identified near-term opportunities, as well as our team's ability to continue to improve and optimize our RAMP platform, including offering both greater sell side and buy side functionality to our partners
So not much directly on CTV, but video as a whole, we see pretty good opportunity
And, that's another area where we have had a pretty good boost from AI
As a result, both our paid O&O business and our network business experienced solid growth in Q4
And finally, our improved balance sheet gives us capacity for any accretive or strategic tuck in acquisitions we may identify
Importantly though, we also saw solid execution in our remaining advertising business on a number of fronts
As a result, we believe we are set up well for what we hope to be a secular reacceleration of spending in online advertising in 2024
The partner console has also allowed our partners to grow quicker
I want to reiterate that we are cautiously optimistic about macro trends in digital advertising for this current year, I’m bullish about our abilities to execute against our near-term opportunities
Yes, it was Q4 and selling Total Security was had a really positive effect on our balance sheet
As I mentioned, Q4 was a pretty substantial, very busy quarter for us, and we made some pretty big changes to our business, we believe, setting us up for a lot of success on a go forward basis
Most importantly, total sessions processed by RAMP in the most recent quarter was $1.85 billion, up 4% sequentially and 31% year-over-year
We've seen really positive effects
So AI for us, I've kind of mentioned with the incorporation directly into our platform, which has been really good
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Last year, Owned & Operated advertising declined quarter over quarter from Q3 to Q4 by 11%
Q4 revenue was $96.1 million, representing a 31% year-over-year decline, which was narrower as compared to the 44% decline that we saw in Q3
Revenue less advertising spend for our Owned & Operated advertising segment declined 24% to $26.6 million versus a 36% decline in Q3 of 2023
Owned & Operated advertising revenue was $79.4 million representing a 38% year-over-year decline, also narrower than the 54% decline that we saw in Q3, a sequential growth of 20%
Adjusted gross profit was $37.6 million, down 12% year-over-year versus 18% year-over-year decline in Q3 of 2023 and comes in above the high-end of the implied Q4 adjusted gross profit guidance range previously provided
And so when you talk about RAMP and opening up the buy side to our network partners, what we're doing is pretty difficult
We are estimating adjusted gross profit to come in between $28 million and $30 million representing a 24% decline at the midpoint
We are estimating Q1 revenue to come in between $82 million and $84 million representing a 31% year-over-year decline at the midpoint
And some of them are going to be negative, and when we kind of cut them off as quickly as possible
We expect that will bring down pricing, overall in display and programmatic
Operating expenses net of add backs were $27.6 million, down 3% year-over-year and down 5% sequentially
We estimate Q1 adjusted EBITDA to come in between negative $1 million and negative $2 million which is reflective of some seasonality in operating expenses where we see higher professional services expenses primarily related to our fiscal year audit as well as higher beginning of the year accruals for payroll and bonus related expenses
And so, again, as we think about just the ad market and ad demand coming back, all of that gross profit growth, that we're expecting throughout this year, knocking on wood here, will flow down to EBITDA profitability
Adjusted EBITDA was $10 million versus $14.4 million last year, down 31% year-over-year, but up 24% quarter-over-quarter
App Store, there's going to be 2 or 3 months of pretty large disruption in that particular marketplace
The quarter did start off a little bit slow, slowly for us
Moreover, while we view Google's anticipated cookie deprecation on its Chrome web browser, currently anticipated in or around late 2024 as a net positive for our overall business, the change does create a significant amount of uncertainty in the online advertising environment in which we operate
When System1 acquired the business in early 2022, the heavy upfront marketing costs were not really a significant concern for us
And after a rocky 2023, I don't want to promise an operating performance that we aren't confident we can meet or exceed
For example, to date in Q1 of '24, we are not seeing evidence of a comparable rebound to what we experienced in the first half of 2023, much less the first half of 2022
   

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