Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
So what we talked about, I think, it’s important to note is that, our order books have improved across all our regions as we sit here today
Our forestlands are not only a source of global competitive advantage, but also an enduring repository of shareholder value
So the demand is clearly strong
So the reason -- thing that’s helped us with pulp prices going up already almost $160 per ton versus trough would indicate that Europe would be better
By managing what we could control, as we executed our three-pronged strategy of commercial excellence, operational excellence and financial discipline, to strengthen our competitive advantages in our core uncritical market
But as Jean-Michel said and we said earlier, we are currently running full right now in Europe and so that’s a very positive
These strong performances during challenging industry conditions demonstrate our agility and ability to adapt
So we are quite positive about Europe
So we clearly see 2024 rebounding significantly and hope to very soon be talking about positive earnings for Europe
So it is for sure impacting the non-integrated players in Europe and that’s maybe one of the reasons why we are seeing operating rates back up high in Europe and having a very strong demand
With a talented team, the mill is performing well and we are benefiting from the $40 million pulp mill modernization project that was completed just before the acquisition
These returns are well over 20% returns, even much higher than that
As we enter 2024, we are confident in our ability to continue to create value for our customers and shareholders
In fact, we are running full in both Europe and LatAm and with a lot significantly less economic downtime in North America and that has driven a lot of the operational improvement because we are taking less order downtime and we are absorbing more of the fixed costs that we had in the first half of last year
Our Brazilian forestlands are a significant competitive advantage
We allocate capital to increase shareholder value, we use cash to maintain a strong balance sheet, return cash to shareholders and we invest to strengthen our business, and we are confident in our ability to generate strong earnings and free cash flow through the cycle
So sometimes it’s a bit frustrating, but on average, we really believe Europe would be good, Nymolla is performing very well, Saillat is performing well, order book, as I mentioned, is good and we have seen price increasing
I am proud of how our teams collaborated to meet our customer needs and maximize cash
We are confident in our future and motivated by the opportunities that lie ahead
Volume improved by $20 million due to seasonally stronger volume in Latin America and positive trends in both Europe and North America
We are confident in our ability to continue to create long-term shareholder value by executing our strategy and delivering on our investment thesis
Input and transportation costs improved by $1 million, driven primarily by favorable chemical costs more than offsetting seasonally high energy costs
We leverage our strengths to drive high returns on invested capital and generate free cash flow
In Europe and North America, we continue to see improving order books, as well as lower import levels
We are a low cost global producer with strong supply position, iconic brands and talented teams
We also expect improving demand for Brazilian exports to other Latin America and offshore markets
We believe in the promise of paper for education, communication and entertainment, and we intend to increase our competitive advantages in the markets we share -- serve
They have encouraged us to discontinue annual guidance and to continue our focus on growing long-term shareholder value
These eucalyptus plantations provide a material cost advantage relative to most other global competitors
In addition to providing global competitive advantages, our Brazilian forestlands have significantly increased in value
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
The performance for the quarter was somewhat below our expectations now
We expect volume to decrease by $10 million to $15 million, reflecting seasonally weaker industry demand quarter in Latin America
However, several years of reduced planning, combined with natural causes, largely droughts and fires, forced us to harvest trees early
In Latin America, we expect seasonally weaker demand in the first quarter
We do, however, expect some price and mix erosion in North America, and as usual in the first quarter, we expect an unfavorable seasonal mix impact in Latin America
You think about in terms of demand decline that we had in Europe, it was even worse than COVID
We had an issue with the turbine we mentioned in the Saillat mill, which is over now, which costed us $5 million and it was really the trough of the cycle in terms of prices
So 2023, as you know, in Europe was difficult
So in our outlook, mostly from third quarter, actually, we expect slight erosion in North America, not a huge one, a slight one
Jean-Michel Ribiéras I think you -- some of our competitors talked about the same thing we did on some plantations about six years to seven years ago, where those plantations have suffered under the seven-year cycle of drought, natural causes, which have impacted and that has impacted all Brazilian forestry plantations
And we also, specifically, more significantly from our past companies, reduced some of our investments in the forestry during those years, which we are -- it’s a six-year, seven-year cycle
Price and mix decreased by $25 million, largely due to earlier paper price decreases in all regions, as well as unfavorable mix in Latin America and North America
I just had a couple quick follow-ups on the cost reduction plan and apologies if it was mentioned earlier, had some technical difficulties at the start of the Q&A
I guess one quick question I had was just around and apologies if this was mentioned in the first question, I had some technical difficulties
The prices of pulp, which affect a lot our Saillat mill went down
What we are seeing right now in Europe is decrease in imports
George Staphos Go ahead, John John Sims We say that it was a trough, but it was a significant
It was a trough in terms of demand
We project price and mix to decrease slightly, about $5 million to $10 million
So it could have an impact that actually decreased imports in Europe, which then means that more domestic supply has to be stay onshore to service that need
   

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