Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
We are pleased with this performance during this important part of our annual sales cycle
Wealth and Asset Management underlying earnings were up 28% year-over-year on increased investment income from higher volumes and yields
Our results show the strength and resilience of our business mix and the positive impact we're having on our clients
We achieved strong underlying earnings for the quarter of $983 million, up 10% year-over-year
It's performing well over the long run, and we think it's -- it will continue to do so
Underlying ROE of 18.4% this quarter is above our medium-term financial objective of 18% plus, reflecting our strong earnings and disciplined financial management
Further, we maintained a strong capital position with an SLF LICAT ratio of 149%
Our results reflect exceptional individual protection sales and good momentum in our group health and protection businesses in the fourth quarter
Strong group health and protection sales were driven by both our Canadian and U.S
In Canada, sales were up 63% year-over-year, largely due to higher large case sales and in the U.S., both Dental and Health and Risk Solutions sales were strong
So as you noted, we have a very strong capital position at 149%
As Manjit said, we have outperformed our long-term expectations over the last decade
Individual protection sales were driven by strong performance in Asia, with sales up 49% year-over-year
International high net worth sales were 2x higher than the prior year and Hong Kong sales were 4x higher
And again, that represents our strong mix of capital-light businesses
Canadian individual protection sales were up 23% year-over-year, driven by higher third-party sales
And the main reason for that was in addition to strong business capital generation, we also saw some favorable capital impacts on market movements, primarily driven by the lower rate environment
SLC demonstrated strong capital raising, closing the year with $177 billion in fee-earning AUM, up 8% over the prior year
But overall, we're seeing favorable disability results and experience
Sales growth looked really good this quarter, but 6% earnings growth, not really what people expect from that business
Underlying ROE of 17.8% was also strong
Total assets under management reached $1.4 trillion in 2023, demonstrating the resilience of our business in a challenging environment
Looking ahead, we are optimistic that our strong fundamentals and focus on execution will help carry our strong performance into the new year
We maintained an excellent capital position, had strong sales momentum in both our individual protection and group health and protection businesses and our asset management businesses were resilient, delivering steady contribution in a challenging environment
The strong sales results also drove new business CSM of $223 million, up 82% from the prior year
Group sales of $932 million were up 4% year-over-year, driven by strong stop-loss sales
Obviously, we're pleased about the results there
We continue to see good sales momentum in Hong Kong with sales up 4x year-over-year and high net worth, where sales grew 88%
Normalizing for the impact of insurance experience, Asia's results were in line with the prior quarter, reflecting good core business fundamentals
And once you start to see transactions, and we are starting to see them, that then puts the real estate into a stronger set of hands, and that's also positive
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Reported net income for the quarter was $749 million, $234 million lower than underlying earnings
Reported net income of US$ 183 million was down 18% year-over-year, driven by the fair value changes in shares owned by MFS management
Real estate experience reflects modestly negative total returns in the current quarter versus our long-term expectations of approximately 2%
Market-related impacts were primarily driven by negative interest rate experience, reflecting lower rates and unfavorable real estate experience
MFS net underlying income of US$ 191 million was down $11 million or 5% from the prior year, reflecting higher expenses, partially offset by higher A&A and increased investment income
And then secondarily, on MFS, we've now seen 4 consecutive quarters of negative operating leverage
Reported net income of US$ 77 million includes unfavorable ACMA negative market-related impacts and acquisition-related expenses
Group Health and production underlying earnings were down from the prior year, driven by lower dental results, partially offset by growth in Group Benefit earnings
But I mean, there was a comment there that the environment remains challenging for all U.S
Lower dental results were driven by the impact of Medicaid redeterminations on member count, which drove lower dental premiums and higher loss ratios
The unfavorable credit experience, we had one particular loan in the U.K
We would -- which was lower than we expected when we entered the year last year
Additionally, as we talked about in priors, we are seeing revaluation in things like industrial and multifamily as well, simply a delayed response to the increase in interest rates
And on that conversion, we experienced a lapse loss in essence
where the borrower ran into difficulties across the broader portfolio, so defaulted on several things
In terms of operating leverage, assets given where ANA has been over the last couple of years, there's going to be some negative leverage as part of that
So 2023 was a tough year to raise money in real estate, as you might expect, given the rise in interest rates
So I think on the corporate item, we've talked about, on average, that corporate would have a loss of around $100 million
So we -- that is part of the pressure that we are seeing in the disability business, very much like what Jacques was saying, we -- a fair amount of this is the way we're managing claims, the way we're helping people get back to work
office specifically, like have you made a determination in your view, the valuation pressure is temporary and it's not let's say, structural
   

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