Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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And I really like that our project opportunity pipeline that has shown growth at the high-confidence -- across high-confidence projects is starting to materialize into project order growth over the last two quarters
In addition to the projected range of revenue, our fiscal 2025 earnings targets assumes an improvement in gross margin to between 32.5% and 33.5% and increased operating expenses, including higher investments in our business transformation initiative, strategic growth initiatives and employee costs
Our fourth quarter results reflect strong earnings growth, as we continued to make progress on our profit improvement initiatives
Our adjusted earnings per share exceeded the targets we communicated a year ago, and we strengthened our balance sheet by generating $238 million of liquidity over the last four quarters
For the full fiscal year, our earnings per share more than doubled versus the prior year, and our adjusted earnings per share increased by more than 60%
I'm proud of our employees for actively helping to capture price increases to offset the significant inflationary costs we absorbed over the past couple of years, for implementing improvements in various aspects of our operations, and for continuing to drive our overall fitness initiatives
These efforts to improve our profitability and to reallocate resources are supporting specific growth initiatives and transformation priorities, allowing us to continue to invest in our strategy, while strengthening our financial results
Building on this, I'm pleased to share that our International segment posted additional improvement this quarter with over $3 million of adjusted operating income, following strong results in the third quarter
These past two quarters reflect significantly improved performance from the nearly $15 million adjusted operating loss that the International segment recorded in the first half of the year
We did have a few spots in receivables that we have been attending to, and feel like we have those in very good shape
Working capital was a great benefit to cash flow this year, even with organic sales down in the final three quarters of the year
And nobody wanted to go through that, but you've come through it, and the balance sheet just shows you a remarkable and a very strong position going forward
We've stayed invested in workplace research and new product development to maintain and enhance our portfolio, and we believe this is reflected in the continued strength of our win rates
We're further encouraged by data points [such as] (ph) Business Roundtable survey on CEO confidence, which showed a significant increase this quarter, and it reached the highest level in the past 18 months as optimism in the United States economy is strengthening
What I'm really pleased about is the level of capability that -- we're staying with SAP, but we're really pleased with the advanced capability that the new versions of SAP have
So, I think overall, we feel really good about both of those transactions, and they are part of the family
For the International segment, we are targeting positive adjusted operating income in fiscal 2025, including a smaller loss in the first half of the year as compared to fiscal 2024
Over the past two quarters, we have seen stronger demand levels, especially from our large corporate customers
In closing, we delivered strong profit improvement in fiscal 2024
As we begin fiscal 2025, we're optimistic, and we remain resolved to continue leading the transformation of the workplace, while diversifying our revenue base and improving our profitability
Look at our pipelines and opportunity creation, it's a little lumpy as the opportunity creation is coming in, but our high confidence levels within our project opportunity pipelines, these are either projects we've won, it's business with an incumbent, a customer that we've been working with for years, or we feel like we're strongly positioned to win
As we begin fiscal year 2025, we remain optimistic about the growing number of companies in the United States that are emphasizing physical presence in their offices for a minimum number of days per week, and we believe this trend positively impacted our fiscal 2024 order levels
This progress is evidenced by our year-over-year gross margin improvement of 140 basis points, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of year-over-year gross margin improvement
And we've addressed that and feel really good about where we are in those markets
I think with HALCON, they have just continued to be tremendously successful in ways that are both driven by HALCON, as well as the ability to kind of cross-sell and leverage sort of HALCON relationships and the HALCON portfolio, along with some of the traditional Steelcase relationships
We're seeing more and more companies settle into a stronger in-office presence, and we are optimistic their investment levels will increase in response to new business needs
And so, I think certainly being able to meet customers where they are, in that sense, hopefully helps them get to decisions faster and more effectively
We feel pretty good about that as we look forward
That, coupled with improved CEO confidence, the macroeconomic outlook that feels pretty good, I wouldn't call us bullish, but certainly optimistic
Q4 marks the fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year order growth from continuing business, and we believe the growth in orders related to project business is reflective of our strong win rates in fiscal 2024
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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In Q3, you might remember, we had 15% order growth, I think, was the total, right, Mike? And we were a little bit short on our revenue forecast because we had extended delivery times
However, our beginning backlog was down 8% compared to the prior year, which was impacted by customer orders that had accumulated, in part due to supply chain disruptions and extended delivery timeframes
The order decline in International was driven by EMEA, as we experienced softness in the U.K
Moving on to the sequential comparison of our fourth quarter results versus the third quarter, adjusted operating income of $34 million in the fourth quarter represented a sequential decrease of $16 million, including a $10 million decrease in the Americas and a $6 million decrease in International
And from the supply chain disruptions, we were as high as 14 weeks, I think, and it hasn't come back down to pre-pandemic levels
However, we entered fiscal 2025 with a lower beginning backlog, which will negatively impact our revenue growth early in the fiscal year
Geographically, at least here in the U.S., obviously, I think the West Coast, which we've talked about before, which has been a bit of a laggard all along, continues to be a laggard
Across the months, we posted 4% growth in December, a 1% decline in January and 10% growth in February
So the Americas would have to be higher than that
It has been a tough couple of years for sure
For the second half, the International segment posted adjusted operating income of $12 million, which compares to an adjusted operating loss of $15 million in the first half
It was also in recognition that the large corporate customers were flying our corporate jets less and less, primarily because of governance restrictions
The stock price just didn't go down to levels that we were targeting
But what has changed, probably more a result of the supply chain disruptions that the whole industry faced, is the lead times on orders
And last for me, ERP are initials that sometimes get investors a little nervous
As a result, we expect to report revenue within a range of $715 million to $740 million, which translates to a range of down 3% to approximately flat on an organic basis compared to the prior year
So, the reduction in aviation was really in some ways in response to the need to invest more significantly in local experiences
But it does mean that our backlog doesn't turn quite as quickly as it used to
But I don't -- again, it could be that seasonality is just showing up a little bit sooner this year than it did last year
It's come down in some places, but marginally relative to the level of inflation that we took over the last two or three years
   

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