Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
And I'm very, very bullish on the price of gold over the next year
Despite a challenging market in 2023, I'm happy to report that Sandstorm's financial results set several new records for the company and reflect the strength of an outstanding cash flowing royalty portfolio
Our cash flow is strong and are growing and our debt is dropping and share buybacks are around the corner
Our balance sheet is now strong and getting stronger
Our fundamentals are strong
After just the first few drill holes were completed on this asset, and Erdene was considered an early stage floor with a good first-mover advantage in Mongolia
As the company develops this mine, it realizes potential expansion, we may see this as a sustainable long-term source of revenue from one of the more well-established companies in a prolific mineral jurisdiction
Since construction began, management has consistently exceeded market expectations and the full year of 2023 was no exception with Lundin Gold overseeing production of over 481,000 ounces of gold
With each passing quarter, Sandstorm's financial position continues to strengthen, and we currently have over $200 million in capital available to us
Fortunately for us, our balance sheet continues to strengthen
Sandstorm set a new record in terms of production as well, selling over 97,000 attributable gold equivalent ounces during the year
The good news continues as Lundin Gold guides for up to 500,000 ounces of production in 2024 and up to 520,000 ounces of production of both 2025 and 2026
And the royalty company model is truly powerful
We were also thrilled to see news coming out this morning where the mine had received approval of its modified EIA, which extends the mine life another decade to 2036, highlighting the truly world-class nature of the asset
So we're confident in hitting that debt reduction target by the end of the year
And we're delighted to see a project move so quickly from discovery to production
And as you can see, over the next 15 years, we have substantial growth that we can look forward to
So overall right now, if the gold prices go up, it's great for us
So production should increase in future years from these high quality long life mines
So that current chart is showing that guidance that came from SSR, which is a ramp-up year with strong production, but not full year production
And once it's fully up and running, it should be 10,000 ounces of gold equivalent production per year to Sandstorm, which will be fantastic
At spot gold prices, we see a portfolio generating cash flow of up to $140 million per year, growing to over $200 million per year five years from now
Although in the last eight years have not been easy to develop mines, Erdene has done a remarkable job of moving the project forward
And we're now well into that process and we have good visibility on where that additional money is going to be coming from
Sandstorm’s portfolio is expected to continue to generate substantial cash flow
This is an 18% increase in ounces sold year-over-year
They also plan to continue an aggressive near mine exploration program that performed exceptionally well in 2023
As Nolan discussed, we've been concentrating on deleveraging the company's balance sheet, following a number of growth acquisitions in 2022, using the company's strong cash flows to pay down bank debt as quickly as possible
Cash operating margins per ounce for the quarter were nearly 90% in line with the average for the fiscal year, resulting in cash flow from operating activities, excluding changes in non-cash working capital of $36.5 million, an increase of 22% compared to the same period in the prior year
Fruta del Norte continues to shine brighter with each passing update
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
And the market is worried that these challenges may mean that Hod Maden gets delayed of it until issues get worked out
However, it's worth noting that despite what happened to SSR this week, the Hod Maden mine, which is fully permitted in the slated for full construction this year, can be delayed for up to an entire year, and we would still hit this guidance
The worst case for Sandstorm is that the project is delayed
As a reminder on our Q3 earnings call, we explained that investors should expect a slight pullback this year, because in 2023, we had approximately 5,000 ounces, from a onetime payment on the Mount Hamilton royalty that's non-recurring, as well as reduced deliveries on the Mercedes streams because of the restructuring of the stream to drop fixed monthly deliveries
But I don't want us to miss the bottom end of our guidance because of it
The Falco team has worked tirelessly to reach this point, and we eagerly await the next catalyst in the assets development
But we're at $419 million now will obviously be lower than that in six weeks when the quarter ends, and then we'll just continue to bring it down
Net income for the fourth quarter was $24.5 million compared to a loss of $2.1 million during the same period of 2022
On the day this Copler event was announced Sandstorm stock price dropped 10%
However, mine ramp ups are notoriously challenging to predict
But what I can say and we'll address and answer questions on is that even if there is a full delay, we would still hit our guidance
And I think like candidly, it's a crazy overreaction by people who don't understand
And it's worth 12% of our NAV, assuming it goes into construction this year, then a two year delay only reduces our company's NAV by 1.3% from the loss of the time value of money
The second issue is that our guidance is gold equivalent
The decrease in net income is due to a combination of factors, including certain gains recognized in 2022 that did not occur in 2023, namely $37 million in gains resulting from the sale of the company's Hod Maden interest and equity interest in Entrée Resources to Horizon Copper and $25.8 million in gains on the disposal of certain assets primarily related to the sale of a portfolio of royalties to Sandbox royalties, all occurring in 2022
So if there is some reverberation in the mining industry for this incident, these technical issues are not applicable Hod Maden
It's worth noting that the two mining technical issues at Copler being a heap leach slip and possibly cyanide have nothing to do with Hod Maden
So a 10% drop in share price is happening
So there's plenty of time for delays and for our current guidance to still be achieved
It looks like there's a drop in 2027 in terms of GEOs 10,000 to 15,000 ounces that kind of been sprinkled into the 2030s
   

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