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| Furthermore, we continue to believe that our diversified business model provides significant earnings growth opportunities in our EchoPark and Powersports segments that may help to offset any industry-driven margin headwinds we may face in the franchise business, minimizing the earnings downside to consolidated Sonic results over time |
| It is factored in, and we're going to be in that $2,400 range or north of that, I think, is the back half of the year gets here as we continue to improve, especially on a total Company basis because we're seeing great improvement at EchoPark, even in the current margin rate -- current interest rate environment, as we zero in and focus on execution there |
| We're, we're seeing excellent growth across the remaining 18 stores that we have |
| Moving forward, we remain confident in our path to achieve breakeven EchoPark segment adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter of 2024 and positive EchoPark segment adjusted EBITDA for the full-year |
| We certainly believe that we can improve upon the number that we're giving you |
| Sonic's diversified cash flows and strong balance sheet allowed us to withstand the challenges in the used vehicle market over the last three years and maintain our long-term EchoPark plans |
| However, the downward trends we are seeing in used vehicle wholesale pricing are positive for our business outlook and should benefit affordability and used vehicle sales volume in 2024 |
| And we just -- as we said, we see a tremendous opportunity for EchoPark in the future |
| Despite an elevated consumer interest rate environment, our F&I performance continues to be a strength with same-store franchised F&I per unit of $2,334 in the fourth quarter |
| BMW has done an amazing job overall, keeping their days’ supply down, and did that during the fourth quarter |
| Our parts and service or fixed operations business remains strong with record fourth quarter fixed operations gross profit at our franchise dealerships up 7% year-over-year on a same-store basis, driven by 9% growth in our customer pay business |
| We are proud of the success our team has had in this area and we believe there are remaining opportunities to optimize our Fixed Ops business as we progress through 2024 |
| Used vehicle business should be getting better, as we move forward |
| And I think you'll see that along with improving frontend margin at EchoPark, as we move throughout the first quarter and to the, and to the rest of the year |
| And that bodes well for the EchoPark model |
| As discussed on our previous earnings calls, reducing our store footprint in the second quarter of 2023 allowed us to better allocate inventory across the platform, driving higher unit sales volume, better GPU, and significantly lower operating losses in the second half of 2023 |
| I think the used vehicle business gets stronger, as the year goes on |
| We are very proud of our team's performance in the fourth quarter and we remain focused on leveraging our diversified business model to adapt to changing market dynamics in the near term while positioning Sonic to achieve our long-term strategic goals |
| Furthermore, our luxury-weighted portfolio generally runs a lower inventory day supply and our luxury manufacturer partners have more effectively balanced supply to date, potentially minimizing new GPU compression relative to overall industry trends, which would continue to benefit the earnings power of our franchise business |
| Our unwavering confidence in EchoPark's future potential has positioned us as one of the few remaining nationwide used vehicle retailers, creating a tremendous opportunity for this brand down the road |
| The business -- the used car business is strong |
| EchoPark is going to have a great year, and we're very excited about, being back on our bicycle, so to speak, and getting, getting those stores back to selling the kind of volume that, that we built them for and driving the kind of growth that we built them for |
| And that's why we're very confident in our first quarter breakeven EBITDA call out for EchoPark |
| From a consolidated company earnings perspective, we expect lower franchise dealership segment earnings to be partially offset by significant improvement in EchoPark segment results, returning to positive adjusted EBITDA for the year, as well as a moderate increase in Powersports segment income year-over-year |
| We're gaining confidence with where we were with EchoPark back in 2019 |
| We remain confident that we have the right strategy, the right people, and the right culture to continue to grow our business and create long-term value for our stakeholders |
| And we ought to be in great shape for the year |
| Earlier this morning, Sonic Automotive reported fourth quarter and full-year financial results, including fourth quarter total revenues of $3.6 billion and all-time record annual revenues of $14.4 billion, up 3% from the previous year |
| I mean, look, the used vehicle business is getting better |
| Our team remains focused on driving incremental used inventory acquisition and retail sales opportunities in 2024, driving upside in this line of business alongside the expected normalization of used car pricing and volumes over time |
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| In January 2024, we made the difficult decision to close the seven remaining Northwest Motorsport preowned stores in the EchoPark segment due to unique ongoing challenges to the Northwest Motorsport business model |
| Certainly, as we called out in the third quarter, turbulent waters for the used car business |
| As a result, new vehicle gross profit per unit continued its sequential decline to $4,289 per unit in the fourth quarter, in line with our previous guidance to exit 2023 in the low to mid $4,000 range |
| Elevated used retail prices remain a challenge for consumers, contributing to affordability concerns amid the current interest rate environment |
| We've just been short on the one to five-year-old model for EchoPark, and that, that caused some turbulent times over the last couple of years |
| Excluding these items, adjusted EPS was $1.63 per share, a decrease from $2.61 in the prior year due primarily to continued normalization of new vehicle GPU and higher interest rates |
| Fewer lease turn-ins at our franchise dealerships continued to limit our used vehicle volume in the fourth quarter, and used market seasonality drove a decline in used retail GPU to $1,443 per unit on a same-store basis |
| We've talked a lot about it, right? There was sort of a window of uncertainty that we saw that really impacted our traffic |
| I think wholesale prices in the fourth quarter dropped like 9% |
| Jeff Dyke And, and in some brands, negative margin and significant negative margin, which added, which added to that |
| It's not -- we think it's going to be stronger there |
| I mean, I don't agree with the statement that the used vehicle is getting weak |
| It seems like we're through the worst of times, knock on wood on rates rising and sort of the negative headwinds that you might have there |
| In the used vehicle market, wholesale auction prices for three-year-old vehicles decreased nearly 9% in the fourth quarter, while average retail used pricing declined just 2% |
| I think Jeff, I think earlier in the call, you mentioned that the backdrop is likely to remain tough for 16 months to 18 months |
| And that's because wholesale prices are going to drop and wholesale prices are going to drop because the manufacturers can't help themselves |
| Fourth quarter EchoPark segment adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $9.1 million compared to an adjusted EBITDA loss of $25.4 million in the fourth quarter last year |
| Retail dropped 2% |
| We missed out on some opportunities there |
| Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA loss associated with the Northwest Motorsport Group totaled $1.3 million |
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