Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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And we think as that thawing plays out, we can quickly accelerate EBITDA growth at the residential platform
To this end, during the quarter all of our perpetual capital clients achieved double-digit percentage growth in the share prices supported by recent actions we have taken at RMR, which helped drive this quarter's revenue growth at RMR
However, as I sit here today, we are currently seeing positive signs as the US economy continues to perform well with strong GDP growth, a healthy labor market in declining insulation with anticipated interest rate cuts later this year, we believe we are entering a generally more favorable environment for commercial real estate
We delivered sequential growth and adjusted earnings per share that exceeded the high end of our guidance
Our results also continue to demonstrate the strong alignment between RMR and our clients
I think, RMR we have been very fortunate given the depth of our platform and our experience and relationships throughout the country and Wall Street that we are able to access capital on pretty attractive rates that I think many of our peers would not be able to do given -- just given our expertise in the area
Our results exceeded the high end of our guidance primarily due to construction management fees coming in stronger than expected, as well as improvements in the enterprise values of certain of our managed equity REITs
I think this quarter's results speak to the flow through and the power of this platform, because we -- revenues grew so rapidly
RMR reported a strong first quarter that reflects the continued strength and stability of our operations through all real estate cycles
I also see several encouraging trends and we are highly confident in the strength, diversity and durability of our platform and the opportunity for our clients to benefit as the commercial real estate sector normalizes
The strength of its loan book and strong investment returns have contributed -- contributed to a total shareholder return of more than 60% in 2023
We are especially proud of these metrics, given that private capital Assets Under Management was close to zero, just over three years ago and growing this part of our business has been a strategic objective for the company, for the last few years
We believe our lending platforms underwriting and asset management capabilities are best in class, and something we can ultimately leverage to expand our private capital assets under management in the future
These recent successful financings at OPI, within a difficult market backdrop for office reached speaks to the strength of OPIs assets and RMR's management as well as positions OPI well going forward
Importantly, this financing puts DHC back in compliance with its debt covenants and positions the Company to access lower cost, GSE financing in the future, with ample liquid liquidity and a fully unencumbered SHOP portfolio DHC is in an excellent position to continue funding the necessary capital and drive the recovery in its senior living communities
But we're also very focused at the moment on successfully integrating the RMR Residential platform and getting it to be a significant contributor to our earnings and EBITDA in the second half of the year as well as thinking about ways to organically raise funds and strategies that we think will be particularly appealing to investors
We are still bullish that this business will generate over $10 million of EBITDA per year
They are committed to continuing to do business with the CARROLL team that we've inherited and are really pleased with and the organization can quickly put capital out as that thawing plays out
We believe there is significant long-term growth to be realized by RMR Residential in the future
This increase exceeded our expectations primarily due to enterprise value improvements at our managed equity rates and increases in construction management activity within SVC’s hotel portfolio
We are taking meaningful actions to position RMR and our clients for long-term growth and deliver increased value for our stakeholders
In closing, we are off to a strong start in 2024
Yes, OPI is a strong has a strong portfolio
So I see all those as positive signs
While, we remain excited about the long-term contributions of the acquisition to our platform
In December, DHC made significant progress towards strengthening its financial profile, issuing $941 million of zero coupon bonds
So we're pretty much -- we're looking forward to the really the second half of the year and being able to really turn our attention to growth in a much more meaningful way
So once this thawing plays out, we believe the partners are very aligned with the team that we've inherited and are happy with the RMR addition
Lastly, our Mortgage REIT, Seven Hills Realty Trust has continued to generate outsized returns for its shareholders, during a period when banks have broadly pulled back on commercial real estate lending Seven Hills has remained active
I think, all that is a part -- is much more positive for commercial real estate
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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The higher cost of capital has resulted in significant headwinds to property values and a deterioration in capital markets activity
For calendar 2024, we expect earnings accretion from RMR residential to begin in the back half of the year given the lack of transaction volume across the residential real estate sector
Accordingly, our financial expectations for the Residential business are muted in the first half of the calendar year, before an expected significant increase in contributions to EBITDA and distributable earnings in the second half of the calendar year
There's a little bit of cost headwinds, but it's really at the revenue line, which is dipping pretty sizably
We have a certain infrastructure, construction revenue and construction fees are down
And the other thing that was different than our expectations was the general market conditions continue to stay very muted, meaning there wasn't a lot of transaction volume to look at our activity
As it relates to next quarter based upon the current enterprise values of our managed equity rates, projected declines in construction volumes and approximately $5.5 million in RMR residential revenues
Aggregating all the assumptions I previously outlined and factoring in $0.04 per share from the adverse impacts of lower interest income and $800,000 of incremental amortization resulting from purchase accounting, next quarter we expect adjusted earnings per share to be approximately $0.40
It's dipping because of the revenue hit
So the green shoots are really buying you know the fact that interest rates aren't going up anymore and they're probably coming down and the fact that capital markets are starting to unfreeze
There is no question the commercial real estate has been under pressure since the Federal Reserve began raising interest rates in early 2022
Runs $80 billion talking about how whereas 2024 still faces challenges they see our recovery in 2025 seems to be somewhat consistent with what you started off the call with
And part of the issue here is, we're sort of restarting a business that has been kind of dormant unfortunately, for about a year
And that has a direct flow through adversely to EBITDA, which is driving the decrease
The fact in 19 banks came along for that is also an indication that there is some thawing going on with capital markets
In terms of expectations for deployment of this capital, while residential transactions have remained subdued Bid-Ask Spreads are tightening and general market expectations are turning cautiously optimistic for more residential active -- transaction activity as the year progresses
But we don't think there's going to be a lot of growth in today's environment in those existing joint ventures, just because the return hurdles that the sovereign wealth funds there are in our -- that our relationships are with are just higher
And then when you start the year over, it tends to start the hockey stick again as much as we've tried to minimize that over time, people restart their budgets and certain spend slows down
   

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