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| Back to Protiviti, we feel good |
| As we also talked about earlier, it's very classic to see companies first reduce contractors to then stretch their internal staff, both of which have the positive effect when things get better |
| Pricing and gross margins remained strong, demonstrating the value-added benefit we continue to deliver for our clients |
| And we feel strongly that we'll recover from whatever we have to deal with just as we always have in the past 25 years, where we've personally been here |
| We've managed better on the cost side than we have in the past |
| The other than the great financial crisis, if you look at Protiviti's performance across cycles, the latest being COVID, they performed quite a bit better and more resiliently than was the case in Talent Solutions |
| They continued to have a very solid quarter, and the outlook is good |
| Could you just give us a little more sense, not necessarily the second or third quarter here, but how do you think of Protiviti's revenues and margins holding up through a down cycle and particularly the largest vertical, financial services? Keith Waddell Well, Andrew, we feel good about Protiviti's revenues and margins, including with FSI |
| Historically, there's also a positive correlation between the level of job openings, which currently sit near record levels and the level of hiring, which bodes well as macro headwinds subside |
| Protiviti's regulatory risk and compliance practice leads its solution offerings with significant double-digit revenue growth |
| Protiviti's pipeline continues to grow and demonstrates its increasing presence in the marketplace |
| But we feel good about Protiviti |
| And, obviously, you've got a tremendous long-term track record |
| We believe the future for Protiviti is very bright |
| We think the earnings capacity we have as we go forward is greater, better than it's ever been |
| So we feel good about our long-term prospects |
| Finally, we're proud to have received a number of new accolades in the second quarter |
| We're quite proud of that |
| We remain confident that we're well-positioned to benefit significantly as the macro landscape improves |
| Some of that's mix related, more management resources, more full-time engagement professionals, which, by the way, continue to grow and is the strongest part of our contract business, which is great for bill rates, which is great for gross margins |
| And so we feel good from a cost management standpoint that we're doing the right things |
| And so the trajectory is good |
| Robert Half ranked number one on Forbes list of America's best professional recruiting firms, was recognized by Fortune as one of the best workplaces for millennials |
| All we're saying is wherever we are, dealing with the downside of it, from a cost side, better than we ever have |
| Just wanted to know if you could break out the drivers of gross margin performance in 2Q and what do you think the puts and takes there with respect to 3Q? Keith Waddell Well, as we called out in our prepared remarks, we are very pleased with our gross margin in Q2, conversions declined a bit year-on-year |
| And if anything, if you look cycle-to-cycle, our costs are relatively better aligned each time, and we would expect that to continue as we move forward |
| And as I said before, we're outperforming at the revenue line, the gross margin line, the SG&A line and the operating income line |
| And just today, named by Forbes as one of America's best employers for women |
| Given the cost actions they've taken related to the severance in the quarter, related to the -- using fewer contractors and spreading the workload to their internal staff, the exact same phenomenon I just talked about our other clients are using, right? They do expect those margins to expand in the third quarter and again in the fourth quarter |
| And we would observe that, a, I mean, so far this time, the revenue impact is about half what it's been in the past that gross margins have held up better, that we've managed our SG&A better, that the operating margins have declined less |
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| If you took those out, it would still be a little below guidance in large part because internal audit to a lesser degree, technology consulting, but also business process improvement were both a bit softer than forecast because clients got more budget-focused |
| US Talent Solution revenues were $885 million, down 17% from the prior year's second quarter |
| They were below our numbers and I think your guidance as well |
| Revenues for the first two weeks of July were down 15% compared to the same period one year ago |
| For the second quarter of 2023, company-wide revenues were $1.639 billion, down 12% from last year's second quarter on both a reported and as-adjusted basis |
| On the downside, our administrative and customer support group has been the most impacted as clients have gotten more cautious |
| Midpoint revenues of our -- of $1.53 billion are 16% lower than the same period in 2022 on an as adjusted basis |
| On an as adjusted basis, second quarter Talent Solutions revenues were down 16% year-over-year |
| For the first three weeks in July, permanent placement revenues were down 28% compared to the same period in 2022 |
| Permanent placement revenues in June were down 26% versus June 2022, this compares to a 25% decrease for the full quarter |
| Second quarter results for Talent Solutions were impacted by elongated client hiring cycles resulting from ongoing global macro uncertainty |
| Non-US Talent Solutions revenues $263 million, down 9% year-over-year on an as adjusted basis |
| Contract talent solutions exited the second quarter with June revenues down 15% versus the prior year, compared to a 14% decrease for the full quarter |
| On an as adjusted basis, second quarter Protiviti revenues were down 1% versus the year ago period |
| And so you had some negative leverage from that in their margins |
| The major financial assumptions underlying the midpoint of these estimates are as follows: revenue growth year-over-year as adjusted and Talent Solutions, down 17% to 22% for Protiviti, down 4% to 7%, overall, down 13% to 18% |
| While these factors negatively impact short-term results, they also result in reduced client labor capacity that serves to create pent-up demand for talent as business conditions improve |
| It's just in the second quarter, the revenues in those two areas were a little softer than they expected, not significantly softer, but a little softer |
| So because Protiviti has more fixed cost with their full-time labor force, revenues are a little soft in those two areas, not near as impacted as what we see in Talent Solutions, modestly soft |
| Our guidance reflects that typical softness and additional softness consistent with the past two or three quarters |
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