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| But I think the other guy would, too, but we're in a happy place because it is -- both of us are jointly benefiting from a well-run, world-class chemicals business |
| And that process is continuing to materialize good opportunities for us as well |
| So we believe there's a strength in that |
| Market captures, as we've defined it, is execution of a series of small capital projects less than $25 million in those ranges, executing roughly 12 to 15 a year over a 3-year period, improving mid-cycle pricing market capture by 5%, that essentially equates to $400 million of increased EBITDA at mid-cycle pricing without changing the mid-cycle pricing |
| Over time, you should see a nice steady increase in market capture from our organization |
| So we think we're well positioned to execute this strategy and we will continue to push through this |
| And we've also grown our upstream feedstock capability to aggregate and collect feedstocks on a worldwide basis to capture the highest value there as well |
| From that standpoint, we look at the portfolio, we're well positioned with the Sweeny Hub and the Freeport Export dock, great investments, a world-class facility, we really like it a lot |
| As we move upstream here and you look at the G&P side, I think we've got a really strong position with regard to the DJ presence with DCP |
| We're optimistic about 2025 |
| And we're really pleased with that |
| So we're really pleased with that |
| Now what's really good about this and what we like and think is an inherent strength and a competitive advantage for us is the fact that we're able -- we're all -- there's dependencies amongst each of those |
| But it is a very advantaged position to be in, which is good |
| But I think when you look across the portfolio, we built very successfully PSXP, DCP |
| And for a JV to be as successful as they have been to this point, it's really impressive |
| And I feel good about where we're going with it |
| It's been actually really solid business |
| And what we have been experiencing over the last year or so is an upside on the mid-cycle |
| Supply side we still see is very tight, which we see as constructive to the Refining business and see us on the upside of the mid-cycle scenario |
| We've made tremendous progress on that front |
| It's grown faster than peers at higher returns on capital employed |
| CPChem has performed extremely well |
| And we will continue to see the demand for that and a very strong demand for it over the next several years, over the next several decades for that matter |
| I think they came out with a very strong statement on their last earnings call as well in support of that |
| It's a really good position |
| Gasoline cracks actually staying strong relative to our previous mid-cycle |
| So we like the upside of this |
| So we like the Mid-Con, we like the DJ and thought those were well positioned, highly competitive assets in that region |
| But I would tell you, we're really happy with it |
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| will be tampered with the continued evolution of the energy transition |
| You've had some capacity that's been added coupled with a drop in demand, namely over in Asia, China being the bigger driver of that |
| But that is a concern |
| But when you look at natural gas and NGL pricing, that's been a bit of a headwind |
| And during that time frame, worldwide 4.5 million barrels a day of capacity dropped offline |
| It is very difficult to do any type of business in California, and permitting is very difficult |
| California production has significantly drawn down over the last several decades |
| We have seen secondary products weaken relative -- we talk about mid-cycle being 2012 to 2019 |
| The problem is it's probably not going to last |
| But we do see it as a competitive market with a stable to somewhat declining demand over the foreseeable decades |
| There's a lot of costs from the market to perhaps keep it running petroleum operations at least in the near term if West Coast's margins look good |
| But we are down to 3 issues, and we were working those last 3 issues |
| Gasolines now have worked their way back up to 5-year averages, but distillate and -- continues to be low on the 5-year average |
| And now the economies have all come back, and that supply is still off-line |
| Doug Leggate Of course, with a tightening refining capacity backdrop |
| In fact, you're starting to see some of the constraints on infrastructure, which you're seeing expansion coming in from some of the players in this space |
| No doubt |
| Doug Leggate So if I put it to you then that your margin assumptions could be conservative |
| One is about driving the inefficiencies out of the business |
| That doesn't work for our shareholders |
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