Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Second, we expect cash connections to grow by double-digit compared to 2023, driven by higher portfolio purchases and improved pricing
But we're very optimistic here Mark, as we've seen the improvement now for the last two quarters as portfolio income has started moving up in the right direction, we expect that to continue going into the next few quarters of 2024
Over the long-term, this should make us both more profitable, and a more competitive buyer of portfolios
We believe the capital available under our credit facilities, the cash generated from our business, and access to capital markets in both the U.S and Europe, position us favorably to accommodate the expected build in portfolio supply
We have benefited from significant growth in Portfolio supply within the U.S in 2023
As supply in the U.S continues to build, driven by rising industry credit card balances, and higher delinquency and charge-off rates, we expect another very strong year for U.S portfolio purchases
In the U.S., we expect yet another strong year of buying from our perspective
This full year volume represents the third highest level in company history, and it's particularly encouraging when you consider these investments are being achieved at improved prices and expected returns compared to the 2020 to 2022 time period, which was marked by low supply in the U.S and tight pricing globally
So we feel good, as Vik mentioned in his outlook for 2024, we feel very good from a U.S perspective, both from a buying perspective as well as from pricing
And importantly, we expect pricing also to be holding up at the levels that we're seeing, which are significantly improved as I mentioned in my remarks earlier on the Americas score, if not getting better from where we are
This process was fully rolled out in the fourth quarter, and has shown very encouraging results with regard to incremental payment plans being established
So cash collections, we expect double-digit growth, and then expenses modestly and we're going to see a lot of the benefits coming over the coming quarters in 2024
Agency fees, which are variable and largely driven by cash collections in Brazil were up $4 million this quarter as we continue to experience strong cash collections growth in that market
You can see on the chart on the left that the fourth quarter represented the second quarter in a row that portfolio income has grown year-over-year
First, we expect strong portfolio investment levels, largely driven by the projected increase in U.S portfolio supply
As a result, we will begin realizing the year-over-year pricing improvements and an associated uplift to portfolio income in 2024
At a micro level, during 2023, we integrated our management team globally, grew our business with additional portfolio investments, had our debt rating affirmed and made tangible progress on our cash generating and operational initiatives, while controlling our expenses
During the quarter, we collected $80 million in excess of our expected recoveries, exceeding our expectations on a consolidated basis by 3% with the Americas overperforming by 1% and Europe overperforming by 6%
Our bank lines have margins ranging from 235 to 380 basis points over the benchmark that provide an attractive cost of capital
These actions are designed to built overall expense flexibility to operate efficiently across the business cycle
It's important to note that the financial improvement is expected to gain momentum through the year as the cash generating and operating initiatives are scared
As Rakesh will outline in a moment, our financial performance for the fourth quarter and full year of 2023 underscores the progress we made to stabilize performance
The portfolio income, should it grow faster than cash collections? Rakesh Sehgal So, look, we should see cash collections doing the double-digit and then portfolio income is going to continue to grow, but I would say that it's going to be -- on a quarterly basis, you will see it growing year-over-year slightly under the cash collections
Our capital structure remains strong with a debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio of 2.89x at December 31
This reflected our strongest Q4 investment level in the U.S in the last 5 years
While portfolio growth and pricing are important factors driving cash collections and revenues, these are number two, which we have referred to as operational effectiveness, is absolutely central to our ultimate success, as it seeks to extract value from the portfolios that we already own
Cash collections for the quarter were $410 million, up 5% from the prior year period, and up 2% on a constant currency basis
Following the rollout, we have seen a meaningful increase in post-judgment value creation
In rebinding my senior team in whom I’ve the highest confidence, I have concentrated on returning a keen sense of urgency, operational excellence, team work and shareholder alignment through our collective focus
Since our industry is cyclical and highly competitive, it is imperative that we have an expense management structure that is flexible and enables us to drive lower marginal costs while continuing to ensure optimal customer outcomes
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Our disappointing loss in the first quarter of 2023 largely due to underperformance in our U.S business, crystallize our incentives through the balance of last year
Recognizing that there were numerous shortfalls in operational execution across our U.S business, we launched multiple initiatives in April 2023
Our 2023 cash performance versus our expectations at December 31, 2022 experienced 6% overperformance in Europe, and 3% underperformance in the Americas, or 1% overperformance on a consolidated basis
With regard to pressures on the consumer, we have mentioned last quarter that the cost of living in certain European markets has been having an impact
I mean, even the forward flow agreements in Europe are lower this quarter than they were last quarter, and obviously they are down more than half from where they were this time last year
Net loss attributable to PRA was $9 million, or negative $0.22 in diluted earnings per share
For the full year, net loss attributable to PRA was $83 million, or negative $2.13 in diluted earnings per share
U.S cash collections decreased 5% for the quarter, largely as a result of lower yields and purchase price multiples from the 2020 to 2022 vintages as the older higher yielding vintages rolled off
If we're trying to pin an efficiency ratio, right, obviously, the 57.3% number in the fourth quarter came in kind of well below guidance, which I believe you guys had said was going to be flattish relative to the third quarter
I think the way that that we will guide your thinking on this is to say that the expense growth rate will be lower than the cash collections rate that we are experiencing
Our expenses for 2024 are expected to reflect a number of year-over-year pressures, largely offset by the benefit of our cost management program
I could not be proud of their contributions
I mean, Vik, in your prepared remarks you talked about EU [indiscernible] Europe being a little hard to predict, right? Is it getting more so is the question
So we're being careful not to overestimate what the future buying would be
Equally if not more importantly, it is an opportune time for us to share our prospectives and expectations with regard to our future performance
On the other hand, given the historic preponderance of spot transactions in the European market, the precise timing and amount of investment opportunities in Europe are less predictable
We caution listeners that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our expectations
And maybe just to follow-up on the outlook for purchase values in the U.S., obviously balances are at record highs and loss rates have returned to pre-pandemic levels
Please refer to the earnings press release and our SEC filings for a detailed discussion of these factors
With the expense mitigation actions that have been completed, and high confidence in others that are in flight, we are targeting overall expense levels to grow at a meaningfully slower pace year-over-year in '24 compared to cash collections
   

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