Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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PMT's current capital deployment is focused on opportunistic investments that we believe have the potential for strong, long-term risk-adjusted returns
Annualized ROE was 14%, reflecting very strong financial results and growth in book value per share from the prior quarter due to meaningful income contributions from all three of its investment strategies
And so as we are waiting for some of these other trends to develop or we're seeing some of these other trends develop, we have this really strong base of assets that is running off at a slow rate that we expect to perform really well over time
Though the current origination market remains constrained, I'm very enthusiastic about PMT's opportunities in this environment
They're running off very slowly for that reason, and they both have very strong credit characteristics of the underlying borrowers to drive them
PMT is really positioned well
Looking at our run rate potential on Slide 7, with expectations for interest rates to remain higher for longer and a de-inversion of the yield curve during the third quarter, potential returns from the interest rate sensitive strategies have improved, driven by higher projected yields relative to financing costs for MSRs and MBS
These included the upside of a previously issued Fannie Mae term loan from $155 million to $370 million, the redemption of $450 million in Fannie Mae MSR term notes due in 2025 and the opportunistic issuance of $54 million in unsecured senior debt at very attractive terms
As a result, we expect the MSR asset to produce stable cash flows over an extended period of time
Income from PMT's correspondent production segment was up from last quarter, primarily due to higher margins
PMT had an outstanding third quarter
As David mentioned, the outlook for our current investments in organically created CRT remains favorable with an underlying current weighted average loan-to-value ratio of approximately 50% and a 60-day delinquency rate of 1.18%, both at September 30
As you can see on Slide 13, in the third quarter, we also took several steps to further strengthen PMT's balance sheet
Given the majority of mortgages underlying these assets were originated during periods of very low interest rates, we believe these investments standard perform well over the foreseeable future as low expected prepayments extend the expected asset life
As such, the run rate return potential expected from PMT's investment strategies over the next four quarters increased from $0.30 in the prior quarter to $0.35 per share or 9% annualized return on equity
Out of that, I'm hopeful that we'll see opportunities for PMT
MSR fair values increased due to the higher interest rates, which drove expectations for lower prepayment activity and higher earnings from placement fees on custodial balances
And then the ongoing – if we can find the investment that is ongoing when we're creating franchise value for PMT as well as we saw going all the way back to NPLs or then followed on by the CRT we did from 2015 to 2020, that's something that we would definitely be supportive of
Additionally, delinquencies remain low due to the overall strength of the consumer and the substantial accumulation of home equity in recent years due to continued home price appreciation
As a result, book value per share net of the $0.40 dividend increased to $16.01
And I would say that we find share repurchase is more attractive, meaningfully more attractive at the levels that we're seeing today than we did at some of the levels that we saw over the – during Q3
Fantastic
MSR value should also find additional support in a higher for longer environment as the placement fee income PMT receives on custodial deposits is closely tied to short-term interest rates
Total correspondent loan acquisition volume was $22 billion in the third quarter, up 2% from the prior quarter
Similarly, low delinquencies and very low current loan-to-value ratios on the mortgages underlying PMT's large investment in lender risk share are expected to support the performance of these assets over the long-term and we ultimately expect the realized losses over the life of these investments to be limited
So we do have some ability to continue to increase that but we aren't necessarily looking to substantially increase our agency MBS portfolio unless we saw that as a really significant opportunity
PMT reported $32 million of net income across its strategies, excluding market-driven value changes and the related tax impacts, up from $25 million last quarter
Great
Great
We've – the 50% mortgage servicing rights is higher than we'd like
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Additionally, we believe quarterly run rate origination volumes are trending lower than the average estimate from third parties for this year of $1.6 trillion
This has resulted in an extremely low inventory of homes for sale, driving expectations for the lowest unit origination volume since 1990
The prior quarter also included a negative impact of $4.5 million due to changes in GSE pricing
To your point, last quarter, we had the negative impact of the GSE pricing change that did not recur this quarter
Conventional loans acquired for PMT's account totaled $2.8 billion, down 9% from the prior quarter due to the ongoing sales of certain conventional loans to PFSI
Finally, while there has been significant interest rate volatility since quarter end, PMT's book value per share is little changed as a result of our hedge discipline
Delinquency rates for borrowers underlying PMT's MSR portfolio remain low and servicing advances outstanding decreased to $80 million from $94 million at June 30
The underlying mortgages are far out of the money given current mortgage rates, reducing the sensitivity for MSR fair values
In fact, given how far out of the money the borrowers are underlying the MSR, the prepayment sensitivity is lower than what we've seen historically
Now albeit some of that – a lot of that is because of the write-up of the asset
I noticed that the MSR has marked up fairly high relative to some of the peers
The fair value of these investments decreased slightly from the prior quarter to $1.1 billion as runoff from prepayments more than offset fair value gains
   

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