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| So we're very pleased |
| Congrats on another solid quarter despite tough environment |
| So you get a nice, huge benefit once this project is completed |
| The operational benefits of our capital spending program and the continued great focus and execution of our mills and corrugated products facilities on numerous process improvement initiatives once again delivered impressive results |
| And we'll continue to -- what we think is operate, you know, demonstrate the best value in the marketplace to an entire customer base and be able to grow our business accordingly as well |
| So we feel very good about where we are on the fourth quarter and certainly entering into next year |
| But I think the key here is that the backlog remains incredibly strong, and our cut-up demand is also very strong |
| Packaging segment volume for the quarter exceeded our guidance estimates |
| So we've got a good plan for next year also |
| And we've got this ability to basically tailor our liners to whatever the needs of our customers are, and that's a huge competitive advantage we have |
| And so we've got a very good, solid plan in place on where we're going after these cost takeouts and continued operational improvements, along with just being able to look at what the market requirements are going to be in terms of customer needs and addressing that |
| Our service is very good |
| We're very, very pleased with the results |
| Our International Falls mill managed their nine-day planned maintenance outage very well, and similar to the packaging facilities, the mill remained focused on efficient and cost-effective operations, delivering great results for the quarter |
| However, we mentioned last quarter that many customers were telling us the inventory de-stocking of boxes and their products was behind them and we were hopeful that, that would translate to improving volume throughout the second-half of the year |
| Mark Kowlzan You know, it's the benefit of the year-after-year continuous improvement that we've had in place |
| Our approach to cost-effective management of container board supply with demand also delivered the benefits we were anticipating |
| Of course, e-com has continues to kind of take a little bit of a larger share of the corrugated business, and that looks very good |
| The results were $0.17 above our third quarter guidance of $1.88 per share primarily due to higher volume in the packaging and paper segments and lower operating and converting costs |
| I would just add that with Wallula mill operating in a very large market for us, it certainly gives us a lot more flexibility in a box plant to react and respond quicker to the marketplace as that continues to rebound |
| That's good |
| And those segments either remain very steady or have look good going forward |
| But again, it's -- we're finding that our domestic customers want to stick with PCA for the fact that we've got a great quality linerboard and medium |
| However, we've got a lot of other segments that are doing quite well |
| And we still have the most diverse, broad book of business nationwide with local accounts and we'll continue to grow with those accounts and help enhance their business |
| And relative to the bookings and the billings, again, our bookings are up 14% for this at the beginning |
| Based on our current outlook for improved demand, together with current plans for the first quarter of 2024 for the scheduled mill maintenance outages and completing the final phase of the container board conversion on the number three machine at our Jackson, Alabama mill |
| Tom, I think, you know, you've got great examples in the box plants that we just continue to execute |
| Mark Kowlzan We never give absolute numbers, but I can tell you, when we started out the third quarter, we -- the targets we had in mind, we far under -- we were dramatically lower than what our goals were for the ending inventory, and that's a positive situation to be in especially when we have the opportunity to get Wallula started back up and satisfy that demand |
| And I think the best news is it's becoming more predictable now given the fact that we've gotten all of this inventory and destocking out of the way, and our customers are operating quite lean at the moment |
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| Demand headwinds from a shift of consumer buying preferences towards more service-oriented spending, persistent inflation, and higher interest rates continue to negatively impact consumers' purchases of both durable and non-durable goods |
| Relative to the published reductions in the industry benchmark grades that occurred late last year and earlier this year, domestic container board and corrugated products prices and mixed together were $1.12 per share below the third quarter of 2022, and down $0.45 per share, compared to the second quarter of 2023 |
| And as I mentioned last time, and I'll just mention it again, building products, that's still -- that segment, which is a good segment for us, still remains underwater as housing starts have been affected by higher interest rates |
| And again that’s, you know, you've got to take that number, because we've had high numbers and then we come in a little low, you know, we come in significantly lower for the actual quarter, because a lot of these bookings are for quite a ways out |
| This was primarily achieved by idling the Wallula mill for the entire quarter, which resulted in a market-related downtime of approximately 174,000 tons |
| Excluding the special items, the $0.78 per share decrease in third quarter 2023 earnings, compared to the third quarter of 2022 was driven primarily by lower price and mix of $1.33 and volume $0.09 in the packaging segments |
| In our paper segment, volume will be lower compared to the seasonally stronger third quarter and prices and mix are assumed to trend lower with declines in the index prices |
| Export container board prices and mix were down $0.21 per share, compared to the third quarter of 2022 and down $0.03 per share, compared to the second quarter of 2023 |
| It seems a little bit in contrast to what [Indiscernible] said with just generally expectations for softer holiday demand |
| We also expect lower average prices primarily due to the majority of the May decrease in the published benchmark index grades being realized throughout the third quarter, as well as a seasonally less rich mix |
| Prices and mix were up about 3.5% from last year's third quarter and down 2% from the second quarter of 2023, due to the declines in the index prices that occurred earlier in the year |
| And of course, our automotive segment with the UAW strike is now really starting to get impacted |
| But the restart for the fourth quarter, what does it mean about what your customers are saying for ‘24? I realize you need to rebuild inventories and we know PM3 at Jackson's going to be down for the last part of the conversion |
| And we are -- as we get things ready so that we can restart the machine the first of November, we have been incurring labor costs and other things, obviously, with no production |
| Higher depreciation expense $0.11; lower volume in the paper segment $0.04; higher tax $0.02; and other expenses $0.02 cents |
| Tom, do you want to elaborate on that? Tom Hassfurther Well, I think in addition, I think that as I mentioned, these segments that are down, those segments are going to come back |
| Corrugated product shipments per workday were up 1.9% and total shipments with two less shipping days were down 1.3%, compared to last year's third quarter |
| George Staphos Sounds like it wouldn't be surprised by that Mark |
| And so the six mills that ran during the third quarter, we'll have to continue running full out, and then Wallula number three, we'll have to come up and perform equally as efficiently |
| The graphics mix and the effect of what's going on and the changes that are taking place in brick-and-mortar stores, that's been impacted |
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