Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Sales in Specialty Benefits so far this year are tracking to our expectations, and importantly, retention is also strong
Our higher growth, higher return and more capital efficient portfolio will continue to drive an increase in return on equity and we expect to achieve our 14% to 16% targeted range in 2025
As you can tell, we’re very confident about our go-forward strategy and the value we’re able to create for our customers and our shareholders
So I feel really good about those comments, and the beginning of the year experience on those products looks strong
Again, high quality loan portfolio and with the sort of going in debt service coverage ratio occupancy and the long-term lease is still remaining in that overall portfolio, we continue to feel fairly good about the portfolio as we move it forward into the year
Our strong capital position and full year free capital flow enabled us to deliver on our capital deployment strategy
But we really are going into that portfolio with a very strong position
So I feel really good about where we sit in the market
Our capital position and free cash flow reflect robust fourth quarter results and actions we took to increase capital efficiency, including the establishment of an affiliated Bermuda reinsurance entity and the closure of certain guaranteed retirement products in Hong Kong
And so, overall, we feel really good about the underlying business fundamentals and our ability to compete and win clients from other providers
We had really, really strong revenue retention this year
It still shows us benefiting from both the macroeconomic environment, as well as the growth in our block and the increase in revenue generation across our block
In regards to EPS, benefits from growth in the business, favorable macroeconomic tailwinds and higher share repurchases are expected to more than offset continued pressure on real estate, Asia and a higher effective tax rate
As interest rates retreat from their peak, we were well positioned with the right strategies as investors began to reallocate back into risk-based assets
This demonstrates our confidence in continued growth and overall performance
In RIS, benefits from macroeconomic tailwinds and growth in the business are expected to drive revenue growth at the high end or slightly above our long-term guidance, and margin at the upper end of our range
But again, we feel reasonably confident on the industry’s ability to demonstrate that and make our case to elected officials
This is yet another testament of our dedication to providing differentiated investment capabilities to clients across all asset classes
While the closure of the guaranteed retirement products will impact revenue and earnings in Asia, Latin America is expected to continue to deliver strong earnings growth
So from our perspective, it’s a very valuable franchise, and Chris and his team have done an excellent job ensuring that the business we serve is a profitable business
As we look into 2024 and the first quarter particular, we see positive net cash flow in the first quarter and significantly above last year’s first quarter
But if you think about it, the environment overall for retirement plan should be pretty good with the tight labor market, strong GDP growth, and yet your flows have been negative each of the last two years and each of the last three quarters
What I would say is, we’re going to continue to remain disciplined on priority -- on the pricing, we’re going to drive more revenue, and as we look towards 2024, we see continued strong transfer deposits, we see solid recurring deposit growth and we see a moderation in the contract lapse rate, all of which is leading to that revenue guidance at or above our long-term range and margin at the upper end of our long-term range
Our alt portfolio -- our private equity and hedge actually performed better than we expected, and again, helped to offset some of the impact that we saw there
Retirement, we generated strong growth in revenue and earnings in the fourth quarter
Our focus on revenue generation and continued expense discipline helped drive the full year margin above the top end of our guidance range, while we continue to invest for future growth
Business fundamentals remain very healthy
We generated a strong growth in transfer deposits over the fourth quarter of 2022, including a 9% increase in fee-based and 36% increase in spread-based transfer deposits
These strong results were driven by growth in the retirement plan sales, as well as robust pension risk transfer sales, which exceeded targeted returns
So, again, it’s a very favorable environment for SMBs, and of course, Amy is one of our best subject matter experts on this
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
PGI’s full year revenue growth was slightly below our guided range given the market volatility, as well as the industry trend of money moving to money market funds in 2023
And again, I’d also say, the fourth quarter is historically a negative quarter
Margin was slightly below our guided range primarily due to lower net investment income as we right-sized the assets backing the business post-transaction
Retail net cash flow for us and the asset management industry remains challenged, as approximately $6 trillion of assets remain in money market funds or cash equivalents
Variable investment income is difficult to predict, but if the current macro environment persists throughout 2024, we expect continued pressure on prepayment fees and real estate returns
If we think of 2023, we actually -- the places where we fell below our expectations was pre-pays, not surprising given the interest rate environments and the elements of our bond portfolio and also real estate, which again, more of ours comes from real estate transactions and 2023 was obviously not at time to actually take advantage of that
The constitutional reform was not successful
In Principal International, margin is expected to be in line with 2023 and we’re expecting low single-digit revenue growth, reflecting the impact of foreign currency translation and continued macro headwinds in Asia
In PGI, revenue growth is expected to be at the lower end of our long-term guidance, as benefits from market tailwinds are partially offset by continued pressure on real estate revenue and impacts from recent redemptions
So one of the things that, again, it’s probably easier to think about the next quarter or two than it is the full year, pre-pays in real estate transactions will probably run below our expectations, but it’s interesting if we actually did have BII be at the same level that we experienced in 2023, our reported EPS would actually be in that 9% to 12% growth rate as well as our adjusted and our outlook
Relative to our 2023 outlook, the daily average increase was lower than our typical 6% price appreciation assumption, but it was higher than expected heading into the year
In PGI, the first quarter is typically our lowest quarter for earnings due to the seasonality of deferred compensation and elevated payroll taxes
I think from an RIS perspective, Tom, it’s very difficult to project net cash flows for full year
These factors resulted in elevated market and interest rate volatility, which impacted investor risk appetite and increased allocations to cash and cash equivalents
So you talked about being at the low end despite some of the market tailwinds and you referenced some of the real estate headwinds
We delivered on our ambitious outlook for the enterprise despite a wide range of macro issues, including significant geopolitical events and global inflation
I think you’re assuming in line with your long-term expectation, but then there was a footnote just saying, if current conditions persist in real estate in particular, you would -- I guess, potentially you’re going to come in below that
Foreign exchange rates were a headwind relative to the third quarter, but a tailwind compared to the fourth quarter of 2022 and on a trailing 12-month basis
So given kind of the difficulty in actually predicting that, we felt it was prudent to give you guidance on a run rate basis
I mean, I think, what I’d say is, we’ve previously talked on calls about the competitive environment remains competitive on flows
   

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