Earnings Sentiment

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Earnings Call Transcript Word Cloud

     

Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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So obviously, when we're turning the portfolio, by definition, we're seeking better total returns, better risk-adjusted returns than the positions we held historically
loan market performance improved versus the prior quarter
We saw a meaningful improvement in NAV, certainly, driven by strength in the underlying collateral pool
It's just that the balance sheet continues to improve and improve
But this was a strong quarter
Look, it shows the benefits of active management, and congratulations to everyone on the team on that
And it's nice that you guys are paying attention to price
Well, congrats on a great quarter
CLO new issuance during the quarter totalled approximately $28 billion, an increase of $6 billion from the prior quarter
For the quarter ended September, we recorded GAAP total investment income of approximately $74.4 million, representing an increase of approximately $3.9 million from the prior quarter
So very much so
And then I guess the final question is, like, the balance sheet is just in terrific shape
We've seen that basis grow and shrink throughout the year
Additionally, we observed loan pools within CLO portfolios increased their weighted average spreads to 370 basis points compared to 359 basis points last quarter
So in instances where we see the ability to sell something and buy something at a better price with a better reinvestment period or a cleaner portfolio or more stronger cash flows or a diminished probability of a future diversion, we will likely engage in those trades
Good morning
CLO equity, debt and warehouses as we look to maximize our long-term turn-over return
It's pretty wide at the moment, so that's a potential avenue for some relative value
Thank you
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Mickey Schleien And I imagine that given the war in the Middle East and the weakness in the markets in October, if anything, that opportunity is lower now than it was in the third quarter
Quarter ended September, we recorded net realized losses of approximately $10.5 million and net unrealized appreciation on investment of approximately $95.8 million or $0.44 per share in total
The 12-month trailing default rate for the loan index decreased to 1.27% by principal amount at the end of the quarter from 1.71% at the end of June
Median junior overcollateralization positions declined 0.1% to approximately 4.1%
I want to understand, to what extent is your goal of defending the portfolio's average reinvestment period driving exits from post-reinvestment periods, CLOs? Those prices have been relatively weak and are those what's leading to the realized losses? Jonathan Cohen I don't think in a meaningful way, Mickey
My next question, with inflation still above target, the consensus seems to be building around higher interest rates for longer, so curious to understand how managers are dealing with that risk in terms of the stress to their issuers' interest coverage ratios and the potential for more downgrades to CCC
We've seen some managers take proactive measures in terms of limiting their CCCs, limiting their single B exposure -- just for the potential of further downgrades to manage those tests
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