Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Mark mentioned this, but I'd like to reiterate that this is our 11th consecutive quarter of both management fee and FRE sequential growth, the only alternative asset manager that has demonstrated this over this period
We remain at 6 basis points of annualized realized loss since inception, which has been more than offset by realized gains and the underlying revenue and EBITDA growth of the portfolio are robust at low double digits on average
Performance remains extremely strong
We strive to generate strong growth in periods where market conditions are favorable, like in 2021
But importantly, to be able to offer strong and differentiated growth in much tougher environments like 2022 and 2023
It is clearly a favorable dynamic to have more consolidation activity, both for portfolio and for deal activity
This robust growth has allowed us to return significant capital to our shareholders
You guys had a really nice momentum exiting the year
And wealth continues to be strong for us and institutional continues to be strong
Mark and the team have done a terrific job here
And then the outlook is pretty bright as well
So that consolidation is a lift in the potential valuation and realization of value in all our prior GP funds
These are impressive results in any market environment, and much more so given the conditions that we've observed
We've already seen that, right? We've seen like a [indiscernible] get purchased, and that was a great result for us
I think what maybe is most distinct about our performance this year is not just the pure strength of it, which, I mean obviously, we're very pleased with, but also the consistency and predictability despite all the changes in the market
Furthermore, our overall real estate platform performed admirably on both a relative and absolute basis, returning 9% for the year
So the real estate business has had some terrific growth – growth since you acquired Oak Street at the end of 2021, with AUM up about 80% in just two years
And so look, tech has been extraordinary, and I -- we're lucky and we appreciate that we were able to create that opportunity
And that's more than kind of double the average of our many of our peers when we look at results, which are all good results, an incredible organization
We feel good about being in that range
And certainly, we've taken another really nice step, right? We've raised the dividend 29% to $0.72 and fundamentals in the business are strong
People that had an illiquid position earning a wonderful return, now have a liquid position, earning a wonderful return
Our focus remains on providing our direct lending investors flexibility and optionality through product structure, while retaining the excellent credit quality, attractive income, downside protection and scale benefits that Blue Owl is known for
So with that said, with regard to the listing, the listing has been extremely well received, and here's why
So I feel very good about the stability of those positions, and we've experienced that when there have been questions raised
As Alan will detail, direct lending metrics remain strong, with no notable changes to the health of our portfolio companies
And along with that, as we show on slide 5, we've been able to grow our dividend 57% over the past two years, driven solely by recurring and growing management fees
We are well positioned to benefit from incremental sponsor-driven activity and growing market share
In our GP Stakes business, we continue to witness the resilience of larger cap GPs, with the market share gains of these managers accelerating during more challenging fundraising environments
And combined with LPs continuing to allocate more to alternatives broadly translates to the impressive growth we have seen in our partner managers
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
There is a -- for a good reason, a very negative sentiment about real estate
The slight negative for what it's worth to a mark-to-market on the debt in our real estate business
But overall, that big iron take spreads have come down from their peaks, we certainly saw them come back in from particularly wide levels
And they obviously had a very tepid activity year last year
We are not suggesting otherwise, but something that in the syndicated market are going to come down, our market
So numbers came down
Over the past year, we've operated in an environment where the ongoing impact of higher interest rates and future rate uncertainty have constrained capital market activity and capital deployment
As for the loss -- this very small loss this quarter
Now I'm very cautious about focus in each quarter
And exiting this year, the short-term path of interest rates, geopolitical risk levels, and economic growth trends remain heavily debating
But that's kind of part of the problem with the nature of those credits and the scalability
So anything to kind of call out on the returns this quarter? Or what drove the negative
We have other new products we're launching that have much lower margins
With geopolitical tensions and supply chain issues continuing to dominate headlines, companies have elevated on-shoring to the top of their priority list
I mean that's really low
That doesn't mean it's not a perfectly good business
And you look, the penetration is still very low
You get in trouble, it will matter
That's not our strategy
We continue to be in a place where we have not yet had a loss on a software loan
   

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