Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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So, for ADAS, obviously, we have a leadership position with our image sensor
So longer term, we feel really good
And because of that superior performance both on device and package and therefore, system-level performance translating to the OEM, we’re able to capitalize on that, and you’ve seen the growth at 4x
I’m very proud of the team for having done it so quickly, to be able to sample customers now, and that’s going to proliferate and you’ll hear more about it through 2024
So I’m very excited
I’m very excited about that
And it has been impressive definitely
The positive catalyst is going to push it above what we thought
Today that business is all at favorable margins
The last few years, we’ve had positive catalysts in electrification where it was ahead of what we thought EVs are going to be
If you have better battery technology that allows fast charging, that is a positive catalyst
And to put it in perspective, the growth, the 4x from $200 million to over $800 million that we saw from 2022 to 2023 is the highest growth percent in the industry and the highest dollar growth of all our peers
So we’re not blind to kind of the world around us, but we still believe vertical integration is a competitive advantage
So we feel really good about where we are on the capital and the investment on that side of the house
Its 15 basis points of gross margin improvement
This company has much higher profitability than we had seen historically
You’ve had a really good progression there, I think, up about 4x last year to $800 million
And the benefit for a customer because you say, okay, great, well, if you have it, why would the customer change? Having our driver, for example, paired with our silicon carbide, you’re able to drive the silicon carbide switch much differently and extract even more efficiency back to the savings on the battery
I mean, this has been a big element of the margin improvement that you guys have seen, and now you’re kind of signaling, hey, we’re not walking away from anymore because it’s just good margin business
The reason for that is, obviously, silicon carbide is performing well
So our revenue in eight megapixel in Q4 doubled year-on-year
That’s the momentum that’s going to carry us forward as the mega trend of electrification continues in the future
As long as we don’t need that capacity for something else, it’s good business at Fairview [ph] market
However, if you look at overall industrial for Onsemi the results are more muted because within industrial we do have a lot of strength and growth
Sudhir did a great job presenting it in Analyst Day, which is a market expansion that we’re doing
So you got utilization, which will be a nice tailwind when the market starts to recover or normalize
Very happy to have the executive team from ON Semiconductor, Hassane El-Khoury, CEO; and Thad Trent, CFO
Exciting stuff
So in industrial we talked about the electrification megatrend in automotive there’s the same megatrend in industrial for energy storage system or renewable energy and the categories are energy storage systems you have a charging infrastructure and you have renewable itself and I’m talking not the residential which impacted a lot of my peers but more on the commercial and utility scale renewable so these two categories have lifted our industrial result I mean that business for the last two years have grown 60% to 70% year-on-year for two years
But the value in automotive can be extracted, and we’re able to do that
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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As we’ve sort of seen sentiment fade a little bit on EVs in the United States, our auto team is pretty negative on that
Everybody drained the inventory to a subscale level, and they struggled with the way up
COVID hit, demand went down
I mean, you had worse numbers in 2001 and 2009 but there was demand destruction on a much bigger scale whereas we’re almost as weak now and it’s all inventory
What we’re dealing with today is what I call a negative catalyst, meaning, okay, there’s a price point disadvantage of EVs today
We saw the industrial softness because of LTSA’s in end of 2022
So fast forward to Q3, I talked about we’re starting to see softness and I called the European Tier 1 at the beginning because from a market share perspective, they’re a big indicator for me of a worldwide auto demand picture
So you have to overcome these two hurdles
It is also true, though that your visibility is always worse at the bottom
That’s how margin gets degraded and there’s no recovery
Now it’s slightly below what we thought
You guys had signaled some weakness in the automotive business about a quarter ago
Now, I have elevated inventory and I still have to take utilization down
Over time, I don’t worry about the share loss or design loss because it’s China
Why change and go to potentially another risky supplier that has bad quality and jeopardize the business? So again, it goes back to customers perceive the value and therefore they pay for it
Hassane El-Khoury And let me – because I’d rather be wrong that way than plan for a recovery and be wrong the other way because planning for kind of a no recovery in 2024 we manage we’re very disciplined and very cautious about managing inventory, managing utilization and managing the expectation if we’re wrong and there’s a recovery
But the OEMs are seeing inventory levels getting drained below critical levels at the Tier 1s
And two, unfortunately in the short-term you have the geopolitical risk where you can talk about substrate sourcing in China
You mentioned you guys were earlier to see weakness there
Joe Moore I mean if you aggregate industrial across all of my coverage we’ve seen I would argue the worst inventory correction that we’ve ever seen
   

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