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| Now turning to our maintenance services business, which achieved solid revenue growth year-over-year and sequential margin improvement in the third quarter |
| We've had some contracts which have been won in some RFPs, which we've gotten pricing through which we feel good about |
| As previewed last month, Orion's third quarter revenue rose 28%, reflecting an anticipated acceleration in contract activity on large LED lighting projects in the government sector, projects secured through energy service company or ESCO partners and projects with our largest customer |
| Q3 also saw growth in our electrical maintenance services business, which is benefiting from a new three-year agreement with Orion's largest customer |
| We are, however, seeing very encouraging progress in the build-out of our longer-term EV charging project pipeline as we engage with new and existing customers to address their EV charging requirements |
| Our business development progress makes us optimistic about our growth prospects across the business in quarter four and fiscal '25 |
| Cash generated from operations was approximately $1 million in Q3 '24, reflecting improved operating results and net positive working capital changes |
| Reflecting steps taken in the maintenance business and our expectations for the business overall, we expect our blended gross margins to remain strong in Q4 |
| Gross margin on Orion products improved approximately 220 basis points to 27.7% in Q3 '24 from 25.4% a year ago |
| We expect further margin benefits driven by the continued impact of new pricing on renewing contracts in coming quarters |
| In terms of profitability, our gross profit percentage or gross margin increased 95 basis points to 24.5% in Q3 '24 from 23.6% in Q3 '23 due to the achievement of a more favorable sales mix of products, the impact of higher sales volume on fixed cost absorption and improved margin on services |
| We have seen excellent quoting and pipeline build in this channel since we launched the TritonPro and our exterior Harris lines |
| Driven by anticipated strength in LED lighting and maintenance services |
| Certainly, it's important to us to be a leader in American manufacturing in the lighting industry, but it also unlocks federal funding opportunities for customers that can significantly increase their ROI and support their sustainability goals |
| Our initiatives to diversify the business over the past two years are starting to make meaningful contributions to our growth from both new and existing customers |
| I want to reiterate Orion's focus on delivering the highest quality, energy efficiency and value to our customers with the highest levels of customer service |
| We have made good progress in building out the Voltrek team and its geographic reach to meet the needs of large national customers |
| On the three of the four customers that have not been -- that have been converted to the new pricing model with our better margins |
| So we're beginning -- we've begun our cross-selling work with our existing lighting customers, and we're gaining traction in multiple states around the country |
| Voltrek with its over 14 years of experience and impressive track record of EV charging station deployments is extremely well positioned to serve customers in this area |
| Our performance also reflects the benefit of our effort to secure price increases with key customers |
| Over the past few quarters, we have worked to reprice legacy contracts and have successfully converted three of our four customers to our new pricing structure within contracted periods |
| We continue to see significant cross-selling opportunities, particularly with long-standing large national account customers with potential needs across each of our three areas of operation |
| We are expecting continued growth in lighting and stronger performance in EV |
| Gross margin on services rebounded sharply to 18.5% in Q3 from slightly negative in Q2 '24 and 17.6% in Q3 '23 |
| Overall, we believe that maintenance services offers key accounts additional value and provides Orion with recurring revenue |
| We have received great interest from customers and our quoted pipeline is already over $1 million and growing |
| As such, we believe we are in a good position to fund our operations and growth goals moving forward |
| As noted in today's press release, our Q3 '24 revenue of $26 million grew 28% year-over-year and 26% sequentially from Q2 of this year |
| In our LED business, we see continued expansion through our ESCO channel partners who continue to focus on our industry-leading high-efficiency lighting products as well as our new line of value-oriented fixtures, including our TritonPro retrofit high bay lighting fixtures and our Harris exterior LED lighting products |
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| Many of our Stay-Lite legacy customers have their three-year maintenance RFP processes in our current quarter four period, so we do expect some revenue headwinds as we move into fiscal '25 in our maintenance segment as we continue to focus on profitability |
| Our Voltrek EV charging solutions revenue was flat with a year ago period and down on a sequential basis, principally due to the variability and timing of larger projects |
| So as we work through the contract, at least the completion of the current contract, we would anticipate there's additional losses as netting against the other results within maintenance |
| Quarter three revenue of $2.8 million matched prior year quarter three, but was down slightly from last quarter due to project timing |
| Given a range of significant inflationary pressures over the past several quarters, many of these older contracts were no longer profitable |
| And so therefore, we are -- as we suggested, some of these RFPs may not renew because of the profitability concerns that we have |
| On the EV side, a little bit of a drop sequentially |
| As you probably know, there has been some recent reporting on potential pushback in the EV space by auto dealers and rental car companies as well as questions about the forecast of EV growth reaching 50% of the new vehicle fleet by 2030 or 80% by 2040 |
| What we do know is that we're not going to take on business which is not profitable |
| Looking at the bottom line, we reported a Q3 '24 net loss of $2.3 million or $0.07 per share as compared to a net loss of $24.1 million or $0.75 per share which included a 56% shared noncash tax charge to record a valuation allowance on deferred tax assets in Q3 '23 |
| And so therefore, there's a lot of unknowable’s |
| And we really haven't seen any substantial pushouts or anything out or anything along those lines due to concerns about the broader EV market |
| One additional area that should be noted is that there are now seven states which are banning fluorescent fixtures for commercial and industrial use over the next several years |
| These risks include, among other matters, that the company has described in its press release issued this morning as well as in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission |
| But going forward, we really don't see ourselves doing much more business |
| Have you or do you have any ability in the marketplace to go forward on a cost-plus model because it seems to me that we got squeezed on our -- like everybody did on margins during the pandemic and the bottlenecks, et cetera |
| Such forward-looking statements are subject to various risks that could cause actual results to differ materially than currently expected |
| And but we do have some that we're in the midst of right now, which are unknowable, except for the fact that we're not going to take on unprofitable business |
| On a comparable basis, last year's net loss would have been approximately $6.3 million or $0.19 per share, excluding the adjustment |
| And are there margins at a loss in this? Or have you recognized like a fixed price defense contract, remaining estimated loss in the revenues generated from this contract going forward or just at zero margin? Or there is some embedded loss here? Per Brodin No, there is an embedded loss |
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