Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Some of it has to do with hiring or investing in additional resources and as a result of that, what you're seeing is third quarter service is better year over year and better sequentially
So we think we're really well teed up, really well positioned for what I think Alan has referred to as a manufacturing super cycle in the coming decade
is very compelling with its customer base, and the southeast is exceptionally compelling for those
Our improved service product is going to help us with productivity
Our transformation into a more customer-centric, operations-driven service organization reveals opportunities to strengthen our franchise
First of all, let me say, year to date, we are positive in our core pricing in every single market we serve, okay
Demonstrating our progress in building resiliency, our strengthened operations leadership, enhanced operating plan and greater crew capacity enabled us to manage the technology incidents with limited disruption to our customers and grow volume through the service recovery
Norfolk Southern is the operator of the most extensive intermodal network in the Eastern US and together with DrayNow and our best-in-class customers, we will drive more transparency into a fragmented supply chain and increase the ability to best serve our intermodal customers
The market will recover and we will be poised and leveraged to capture growth with strong incremental margins
We'll have greater opportunity to generate more price, reflecting the value of the product that we sell and all of those things will contribute to improvements in our margins and industry competitive margins and I think we're going to see improvement in that next year
I'm more confident than ever that our innovative strategy is a better way forward
Domestic coal shipments should improve sequentially in the fourth quarter on improved service and fewer outages, but headwinds from low natural gas prices will continue to be a limiting factor and while uncertainty in the economy continues to persist, we're confident in our ability to collaborate with our customers to drive incremental volume and to continue providing value in a manner that drives growth in the future
In addition, recent trends in seaborne coal prices suggest higher prices throughout the remainder of the year due to supply constraints out of Australia as well as continued strong demand out of China and India
Balanced against the challenges of the quarter, there were several encouraging developments that demonstrate progress on our strategy and point to growth and profit improvement in the quarters ahead
Notably, service in the third quarter improved both year-over-year and sequentially, allowing us to onboard more business
Volume improved as well and appears to have turned a corner with each of the last four weeks running above 136,000 carloads
Our customers see the commitment we are making to deliver more consistent, reliable service and our marketing team is creating innovative solutions to amplify the value of that service, even in a weak freight environment
In addition to service and volume gains, we delivered improvements in safety as well
Our mainline train accident rate is down more than 40% year-over-year as we strengthen our safety culture and performance
It always does and Norfolk Southern is going to be really well positioned, exceptionally well positioned to take advantage of not only the volume increases, but also the opportunity to reprice
In the East, that's why we're very confident, right, that we've got a franchise that faces the fastest-growing segments of the U.S
Ed Elkins Yeah, look, this is a positive for us, right? This shows that we can add value into the market and even short-haul lanes where rail traditionally has not been competitive and we can do that because of our focus on productivity
That is a compelling strength that we think is going to allow us to succeed both on the international end and the domestic side
Coal volumes should be stable in the fourth quarter with upside potential in export markets as new production comes online
International markets will benefit from strong East Coast import demand and favorable ocean rates driving demand for IPI
Our customers are seeing improvements in bid compliance and demand, which has us trending positively in October, but we continue to see a relatively muted peak season which will temper overall volumes
We're encouraged by the momentum that we're seeing in our domestic market
Intermodal volume is expected to improve year-over-year in the fourth quarter from sustained service recovery and improving market conditions
Moving to Slide 16 to discuss how we are driving service improvement aligned with our scheduled railroad model and how it will translate it into additional gains in resilience, productivity and ultimately growth
In the quarter, we have made significant strides
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Within merchandise, weakness in several energy markets was the leading driver of a 3% decline in total volume
Utility coal volume was down roughly 26% from prior year levels driven by high stock piles and low natural gas prices and prolonged customer and producer outages
Intermodal revenue was down 22% as revenue per unit excluding fuel declined 15%
Merchandise revenue was down 7% due to lower revenue from fuel surcharge and lower volume
On the domestic side, persistently abundant truck capacity and weak freight demand challenged volume
Lastly, within coal, volume dropped 9% year-over-year with weak conditions in our utility markets, which more than offset strength in our export markets
The largest impact once we stripped fuel out was a decline in our intermodal storage revenue
Coal revenue declined 8% primarily due to lower volume
You guys are still reporting margins that are 600 basis points, 700 basis points worse than your direct competitor and just generally industry
Volumes were down 2%, which equates to a $74 million revenue decline and we are highlighting here the reduction in intramodal storage revenue of $71 million, as we are now back to more normal levels and will continue to have tough compares through Q1 of 2024
Norfolk Southern volumes and revenue was down 2% and 11% respectively year-over-year in the third quarter
Also, low natural gas prices negatively impacted shipments of sand and NGLs
We also saw negative mix in two different ways within our international business
Offsetting anticipated growth in the fourth quarter will be sustained, soft conditions in energy markets as the headwinds that pressured crude, NGL and sand volumes in the third quarter are expected to continue through the remainder of the year
Based on lower Q3 revenue, which included significantly lower fuel surcharge, we're now expecting 2023 revenue to be down closer to 4% year over year
However, we remain cautious in our optimism as uncertainty surrounding future Fed actions, strike outcomes and geopolitical tension is very pronounced
Our domestic shipments have a higher yield than international, so this was a substantial headwind
So I think it seems fairly clear that it's not so much a cost story, but it's much more volume and a revenue story that you need to drive that margin improvement and correct me if you think I'm wrong on that, but the question is really, what do you think is necessary to really get that revenue story improving? I think we look at the intermodal revenue per car was pretty weak in the quarter
The biggest driver in the year-over-year revenue decline is the meaningful reduction in fuel surcharge revenue
Automotive production is a key driver for many of our merchandised markets beyond automotive, so the duration and scope of the ongoing UAW strike is a downside risk to our overall merchandise volumes
   

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