Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
We also completed the purchase on a new issue, five-year fix, Freddie Mac B-Piece opportunity with extremely attractive specs
To close, we’re excited about these opportunities [Technical Difficulty] with the company’s continued stability and the opportunity to go on offense in this environment
As he just mentioned, [Technical Difficulty] relative basis, our portfolio continues to perform very well and despite short-term supply challenges in multifamily, underlying performance in multi-SFR, storage and life sciences remain relatively stable
We maintain a strong belief in the resilience of the [Technical Difficulty] over for questions
The results from the fourth quarter showcased our overall strong performance across all [Technical Difficulty] portfolio
Because, as you mentioned, and this bodes well for multifamily and really all property types of performance in 2025 and 2026
This dual role as both owner and lender in the commercial real estate market enables us to effectively utilize information, allowing us to underwrite and recognize value throughout the capital stack, with our aim in achieving superior risk-adjusted returns that exceed the average
As we announced last quarter, and as Brian mentioned, we have successfully launched an NREF Series B preferred and to-date [Technical Difficulty] we expect to increase cash available for distribution by 15% to 20% over the next 12 months
So, we expect leasing velocity to do very well here
They’re being realistic as well on cap rates, so we’re getting a better debt yield than we otherwise normally would
So, as we sit here today, we feel like the March will be strong
And so, when the bank -- when the banks pulled back, we just stepped in and did a senior mortgage at basically the same rate, lower detachment point, creating a pretty attractive risk return profile
This particular project is one of the last to be developed in Cambridge before moratorium hits and the location, the size, the ability to take full blocks of 395,000 square feet total, we expect to be very attractive
So, from a risk reward, this one was a good one
Paul Richards I think I’d add to that, I think that, it’s a sign of a healthy ABS market in SFR, right? The sponsor is a well-heeled sponsor, very active, very well-known in the ABS space and it’s just -- it’s -- while we’re sad to see it go, it provides us with new capital and I think it’s a healthy sign for liquidity and commercial real estate in general
In the fourth quarter, despite challenging commercial real estate conditions, our loan portfolio maintained steady performance, consisting of 87 individual assets with approximately $1.6 billion in total outstanding principal
Our strategy remains centered on investment areas where expertise in owning and operating commercial real estate gives us a unique edge
On the disposition loan repayment side, as mentioned, we received approximately $500 million gross financing and around $60 million in net of financing on the portfolio’s SFR -- on the portfolio’s largest SFR loan was repaid in full and a few smaller SFR loans generating attractive overall IRR for investors
But again, I’m comfortable with the ability to be still being able to grow cash available for distribution while delivering a full term
Our investment approach remains centered on credit investments and stable and near-stabilized assets, emphasizing cautious underwriting, low leverage and relative debt basis, along with the lending to healthy sponsors to deliver steady and reliable value to our shareholders
Net interest income increased to $3.8 million for the fourth quarter of 2023 from $0.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2022
And so I think those deals will continue to be fine and be able to be refinanced, especially as we get through the next three or four quarters, which I think things, once the Fed decides to actually pivot, that’ll ease some pressure on the system and then getting through the supply will also help
Congrats on a nice close to the year
I would consider this to be an additional $100 million to $150 million opportunity for us this year and they’re beginning to come more fast and furious than they were in the fourth quarter
The B-Piece will pay an all-in unlevered fixed rate of 9.75%, with modest leverage, we expect to generate a mid-team levered return on a very desirable collateral pool
From the beginning of the fourth quarter through today, the company has been very active in underwriting and employing capital
I mean, again, too, we like -- in terms of the trade-offs, we did de-leverage by $500 million, which is good
We will continue to evaluate these opportunities with the goal of delivering value to our shareholders
It’s not going game busters by any means, but it’s some bonds have been doing well from mark-to-market basis, but overall up a little bit through January
So your money has a good nose
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
In Q1 of 2024, we received a prepayment on an SFR senior loan of $509 million to principal [Audio Gap] per diluted share at the midpoint with a range of -- earnings available for distribution will be negative for the quarter as a result of the $25 million reversal as an unamortized premium associated with the previously mentioned senior SFR loan that was prepaid in January
Net interest income decreased 55.5% to $16.8 million, $37.7 million in 2022
At the end of the quarter, we maintain a cautious approach to our repo financing with leverage standing at approximately 63% loan-to-value
The decrease in earnings available for distribution and cash available distribution for the year was partially driven by higher weighted average share accounts, increased financing costs, as well as our prepayments on SFR loans in 2023
So those deals are challenged and I’m not going to say you can’t work through it
The structure of the investment, because of the cash flows, certainly in 2024, given supply will be challenged
So a little bit of a rough time in the next two or three quarters, but I do think there’s light at the end of the tunnel
And then just one last question for me, just on the accelerated amortization of the premium with the prepayment on the senior loan you mentioned in the first quarter, which I think you expect to drive the negative EAD in the quarter
In addition, the large SFR loan payoff will create additional capital to deploy into our $300 million plus investment pipeline, but it also de-levers us by a full turn and now sit below 2 times leverage, the lowest of any commercial mortgage rate
But those are where you’re seeing the most weakness
Jade Rahmani So we should expect book value to decline by a $1? Paul Richards In a vacuum, if that was the only variable, yes
I mean, they basically said they’ve never seen a market like this, where even getting a multifamily loan is challenging
Jade Rahmani So, I was going through Howard Hughes’s transcript and their comments about the construction market, construction loan market, really caught my attention
That’s a rumor
Book value per share decreased 10.4% year-over-year and increased 0.7% quarter-over-quarter to $17.93 per diluted share with the decrease year-over-year being primarily due to the $0.74 special dividends paid out during the year and the increase from prior quarter being primarily driven by mark-to-market increases
I think half of what was planned to deliver over the next 12 months, it won’t deliver
I think the supply in life sciences is fairly overstated
There’s a lot of scrutiny on some of your peers, mortgage REIT peers
But at the same time, the GSEs are showing pretty low delinquencies in their stabilized servicing portfolios that, others like Walker and Dunlop manage
Reported net income of $0.74 per diluted share, compared to net loss of $0.17 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2022
   

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