Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
We remain bullish on the medium and long-term outlook for M&A activity, given the magnitude of dry powder for private equity and the ongoing need to return capital to LPs, as well as more attractive financing markets for borrowers and the expectation for rate cuts
And we think there's a great opportunity to actually in this environment originate new first lien and unitranche loans that have spreads almost as good as the second lien loans while, you know, reducing the overall risk in the portfolio
And we continue to benefit from getting the business off the ground because we have these really long-term assets that tend to grow in value with the lease escalators
So we feel very good when we think about our worries in the world
And then of course, long-term, these cash flows are growing because, in general, we have 2% to 3% escalators on the individual leases, which provides a really good tailwind over long periods of time
This incremental payout is supported by expected strong credit performance and continued elevated base rates, which continue to be a substantial positive for our quarterly earnings
Subsequent to year end, on February 1st, the company issued a $300 million five year investment-grade bond with very strong execution for NMFC's first issuance of this kind
These sectors and industry niches are characterized by durable growth drivers, predictable revenue streams, margin stability and great free cash flow conversion
We believe this consistency shows the stability and predictability of our investment income
And then I guess when we think about the valuation and how we feel about just the cash flows coming from this portfolio -- this diversified portfolio, we feel very good
Over the last four months, we've had a number of positive developments with respect to our liabilities and liquidity profile, including successfully extending both our Wells Fargo and Deutsche Bank credit facilities, doubling and extending our management company revolver and issuing over $400 million of unsecured notes including a Baby Bond and our first investment grade bond
We believe our loans are well-positioned overall in defensive growth industries that we think are right in all times and particularly attractive in less certain economic times
Page 15 shows a stock chart detailing NMFC’s equity return since IPO, over this period NMFC has generated a compound annual return of approximately 10%, which represents a very strong cash flow oriented return well in excess of both the high yield index and an index of BDC peers who have been public at least as long as we have
But certainly, being in the middle of the range feels very good and I think we've conditioned all of our stakeholders to being on average in the middle to upper middle of the range
Given our portfolio's orientation towards defensive sectors like software, business services and healthcare, we believe our assets are well-positioned to continue to perform no matter how the economic landscape develops
So we feel like that is a positive trend and a potential real win for our shareholders
And our tenants are performing very well by and large
And when you, when you basically add a SOFR rate in the mid five to those spreads, we think it represents really great risk adjusted return
As we look forward to the rest of 2024, we remain confident in the continued strong performance of NMFC's portfolio and believe we are on-track to continue to deliver great risk-adjusted returns to our shareholders
This is a great indication that our portfolio consists of companies that are performing well and are able to attract additional investment healthy valuations
Positive credit developments include the full repayment at par of EaglePicher's second lien during Q4, which was previously a yellow named marked at $0.70 and the full repayment at par during Q1 of our $37.5 million second lien position in Franklin Energy, a yellow rated name marked at $0.91 as of 12/31
We continue to believe the outlook for 2024 in the sponsor-backed direct lending market is positive
We continue to think our portfolio is really well-positioned and 95% green
In one situation, one was kind of really recovering from some supply chain and some post-COVID hangover type issues and really just overall performance has improved nicely on that particular name
On the other name, which is a smaller name, similarly just some idiosyncratic business performance has improved there as well
Generally speaking, even though spreads are tighter, yields remain attractive and support our net investment income target
Page 9 provides a high level snapshot of our business, where we show a long-term track record of delivering consistent enhanced yield to our shareholders by minimizing credit losses and distributing virtually all of our excess income to shareholders
We believe the strength of New Mountain and of NMFC is driven by the quality of our team
Deal structures remain compelling with leverage meaningfully below peak levels and significant sponsor equity contributions representing the vast majority of the capital structures
Our strategy has been consistent over our nearly 13 years as a public company and it allows us to operate with confidence in any economic environment
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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But in general, the low velocity environment in terms of deal flow, I think has hurt our overall activity
We did -- we are losing some income from Careismatic Brands, which we talked about on the call
We also lost a little bit of income from a Haven management fee
I mean, it's obviously been a challenging several years when you think about just all the headwinds faced by kind of the macro economy
Our investment in Ancira, which had been previously marked down over prior periods was exited during the fourth quarter crystallizing a realized loss
Page 20 shows that the average yield of NMFC's portfolio has decreased from 11.8% in Q3 to 10.9% for Q4, primarily due to the downward shift in the base rate curve
Net asset value of $1.3 billion or $12.87 per share was down slightly compared to the prior quarter
Obviously below this quarter's $0.40 or so
Starting on the left, credit specific movements represented a $0.24 decrease in book value, the majority of which was is represented by Careismatic Brands
In fact, as interest rates have risen, we've seen some valuation compression in the portfolio because the cap rates have gone up in the market and we've had to reflect that in the value, where we hold these assets
It is important to note that the investment advisor cannot recoup fees previously waived
Similarly, NMFC has experienced only three basis points of average annualized net realized losses in its nearly 13 years as a public company
Second lien positions decreased from 17% last quarter to 15% this quarter
It would be fair to say that, that we are losing assets with higher spread, but we're also getting refinanced out of a lot of our second lien portfolio
But right now we see that as a little bit lower
Syndicated loan and high-yield markets have reopened and we have seen modest spread compression related to the increased competition for fewer opportunities
This represents an annualized net loss rate of approximately three basis points since IPO
And the velocity of deal flow, which creates fee income is a little bit lower than we would expect at some point that should come back and really help us from a net investment perspective
Obviously you all have been, I would guess somewhat intentional about seeing leverage on the balance sheet come down here over the course of ‘24, you've dealt and you noted in your prepared remarks
Overall, as I'm sure you know, spreads are a little bit tighter at this moment in time
   

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