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| We are confident these strategic changes will enable us to capitalize on the robust long-term demand afforded by our end markets |
| So, I think there's some opportunity for us to continue to perform better from a DSO perspective and the revenue levels we're generating each day is north of $30 million of cash flow |
| We think scale matters, we think we've built great scale and our customers believe in the scale capabilities that we have and we do think that's a really important part of what's going to make companies successful in the future |
| Again, in our prepared remarks, we talked about a number of jobs that we're currently bidding that we feel comfortable and good that we'll be successful on some and have a meaningful impact to our business |
| We've really grown and added to our transmission capabilities in terms of talent and capabilities, and I think today, we're in a position where we've done some jobs here in the last two years that are of size and scale and I think we've really positioned ourselves to be a significant player in that market for a long time |
| So these are all catalysts and positive trends that we're going to see in this industry for a long time |
| In summary, our fourth quarter performance was slightly better than our guidance with strong performance in our pipeline business and strong cash collections across the entire business |
| So we're really excited about what's happening in the industry and I think that generally, I think, people underestimate the capital requirements to meet the growing demand of energy use, that we're going to have over the coming years |
| From our perspective, we think we sit in a really good place |
| I think you're going to see that materialize as the year goes on, just from -- some of that will be book and burn but I think we'll have a really strong year outside of MVP |
| While we won't see the impact of this new award until the second half of 2024, this award alone should increase our 2025 segment revenues by double-digits |
| This coupled with the continued demand for our wireline services, where we saw double-digit growth in 2023 and the expected impact of BEAD's funding gives us great visibility for future years |
| We've invested heavily in our Communications segment and we believe starting in the second half of 2024 and beyond, the benefit of these investments will be materialized with solid revenue growth and more importantly, improve margins |
| In our prepared remarks, we talked about that actually having a really positive impact for '25 because these projects actually have a similar, if not a little bit greater amount of volume activity in '25 than they do in '24 which I think positions us incredibly well for a really strong growth year in '25, but the good thing is we've identified them right |
| I think you're going to see considerable backlog build in Q1, I think you'll see considerable backlog build again in Q2, and that will give, in my opinion, at least the outside world that doesn't see our numbers day to day, the comfort that our '24 solidified |
| We are very encouraged about the strength in this market |
| On the renewable side of the business, the reality is that, in our minds, right, the business is much better than what backlog shows |
| There is some work that you're going to book and burn, but for the most part, we think we're sitting in a really good place relative to backlog versus revenue expectations |
| We're also really encouraged about 2025 and beyond |
| And we feel good about how we built our plan from a bottoms-up perspective |
| Surprisingly, when we think about '24, the growth in wind and solar has been somewhat equal, we're seeing a lot of strength in the wind market, especially on the repowering side |
| Our Power Delivery business performed slightly above our expectations in the fourth quarter and secured long-term extensions and expansions during the quarter, with current key customers |
| And when you add-on BEAD's funding which will start impacting the business from '25, it's a very positive development |
| We believe we are well-positioned to participate in that growth, but again, have taken a conservative view until we have better clarity |
| As we think about 2024, we expect our Wireline business to be up again, because it's a very strong market |
| So, we had another strong wireline year |
| With the integration efforts of the acquisitions and Power Delivery behind us, we believe we are better positioned than ever, while the majority of our business is recurring MSA-driven, our project business has the greatest opportunity for growth, we are currently bidding on a number of very large projects, any one of which individually could grow this segment by double-digits annually |
| After spending the last few years, building out our platform geographically, we are really excited about this segment's future revenue |
| While short-term challenges still exist, we strongly believe in the long-term fundamentals of this segment |
| We've obviously been doing a lot of integration as we integrated all the acquisitions that we've made and I think our -- where we stand in the market today versus where we were a year or two ago is a very different place and I think customers recognize that and I think customers are excited about giving us an opportunity to work on large projects and I think we're going to be very successful this year on being able to attain that |
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| While we enjoyed year-over-year growth in both revenue and EBITDA, our performance was significantly below our original expectations |
| Fourth quarter Clean Energy and Infrastructure segment revenue was $1.1 billion, slightly below our guidance, with adjusted EBITDA margin of 4.8% |
| As we discussed last quarter, the reduction in second half volume had a negative impact on operating leverage and margins |
| As we discussed in detail on our last call, we had a number of challenges related to the acquisition of IEA coupled with moderated spending by customers in the second half of the year |
| Obviously, low-single-digit guidance on the top line, probably a little bit lower than some expected |
| The reduced operating leverage will weigh on earnings in Q1 with adjusted EBITDA margins in the mid-single-digits |
| 2024 began with some challenges in parts of our Power Delivery segment as certain customers in Illinois received unfavorable rate case decisions |
| So, as you're working on older projects, those businesses sometimes it has negative impact to margins |
| Q1 guidance reflects historical trends of a modest decline in volumes sequentially from the fourth quarter as well as potential short-term disruption from the realignment in our wireless business |
| We anticipate 2024 pipeline segment revenue will decline to $1.9 billion |
| Post-quarter end, a negative rate-case ruling in Illinois has impacted our customers in the state |
| Annual 2023 Communications segment revenue was $3.26 billion, flat year-over-year, with adjusted EBITDA margins declining 140 basis points to 8.9% |
| Annual segment revenue was just shy of $2.1 billion with adjusted EBITDA margins of 13.7% |
| Adam Thalhimer And then related to that -- given that dynamic, what kind of margins do you think you could generate with that kind of revenue growth? Jose Mas Improving margins, right, so if we go back a few years, at scale our business has been declining or when you think about our wireline business over the course of last year, it declined, that's challenging for margins |
| There's opportunity, we know there's going to be challenge in certain projects |
| 2023 was a really low storm year, it's very difficult to model that |
| The entire marketplace, there is definitely some that have more challenges than others |
| Q1 revenue is expected to be $775 million, showing a slight contraction versus 2023 due to timing of project burn |
| We have deemphasized industrial in the near term, just in light of some of the challenges we had on projects over '21 and in the latter part of '23 |
| This expectation includes the combination of a normal seasonally slow first quarter and the Q1 impact we noted earlier in our Communications and Power Delivery segments |
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