Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We're expecting the first quarter to be reasonably good, given the strong backlog and order rates
Overall our team has performed over 125 MBX lean events through the end of 2023 with a focus on implementing lean inventory management processes improving our inventory returns from approximately 6x times to approximately 8x and sustainability of cost-saving measures identified
Total sales for the fourth quarter increased 15.6% on a year-over-year basis to $148.6 million driven by a combination of the MSA acquisition and improved organic sales volumes partially offset by the $5 million impact from the UAW strikes, which was primarily in our CV market as well as softening demand in our agricultural end market
During the fourth quarter, we continue to progress in the implementation of our MBX value creation framework, further positioning us to deliver above market growth through the cycle
It is also worth highlighting that ACT currently expects Class 8 production to recover in 2025, growing 7.7% compared to 2024 with continued growth of 18.4% from 2025 to 2026 which supports our organic growth expectations over the next two years
Continued strength in our military end market coupled with tailwinds from public infrastructure-driven demand in our construction and access market
Importantly, our operational and commercial self-help initiatives are continuing to deliver improved profitability and cash generation to improve the cost absorption, value-based pricing and enhanced working capital efficiency
As Jag mentioned, this is our second consecutive quarter of record free cash flow generation since the IPO
Our recent acquisition of MSA puts us in a strong position to capitalize on this market more fully
Our financial guidance assumes continued positive momentum in our business even amid some transitional cyclical demand softness in select end markets
So that gives us confidence that as the market is slowing down, but with new project launches and new product launches from our ag customers, we continue to benefit from that growth as well
And then when the markets come back up in 2025 and 2026, that's going to be a significant tailwind for us, right? So that's why we feel really confident about our end market exposure, but more importantly, how we have been able to offset, you know, any potential declines in a year where, you know, multiple end markets are going to be going, you know, in a downward direction
Nonetheless, we continue to see strong coding activity from existing customers as we make headway on our cross-selling efforts
And nice EBITDA guidance for this year and free cash flow generation was quite impressive in the fourth quarter
I would emphasize that given discussions with our customers on the trajectory of utilization improvement, we expect to see balanced organic growth and margin improvement throughout 2024
Adjusted EBITDA margin progression is evident and demonstrates early advancement towards our 2026 goal of 14% to 16%
This end market also saw solid organic growth during the quarter as a new project with a battery thermal management customer continued to ramp up
We have continued to gain additional market share as our commercial vehicle customers plan for their vehicle updates both on next generation products and battery electric vehicle platforms
government and we continue to see good volumes based on new vehicle introductions and related programs
Our customers have solid contractual backlogs with the U.S
Our fourth quarter performance was a solid finish to the year, one highlighted by continued organic revenue growth, substantial year-over-year margin expansion, improved profitability and the second consecutive quarter of record free cash flow generation
Significant share gains, as we talked about, and significant new project launches that we have mentioned in this call and previously right will continue to help us maintain a flattish growth in that end market
We expect further wins through synergies with this account and we are very happy to see where our sales pipeline is on extrusions as we continue our cross-selling focus
We continue to benefit from market share gains, which include new customer programs and we're partially offset by a cooling in consumer discretionary spending
Fourth quarter growth in this market was also aided by customer supply chain disruptions that occurred in the fourth quarter of 2022, but have since normalized
We had some strong new wins in the fourth quarter including the following
So what that's helping us in a down year is that we have significant backlog that we're going to be able to deliver in 2024
Our military market represented approximately 6% of trailing 12-month revenues and increased 12.9% on a year-over-year basis in the fourth quarter driven by new program wins and bill rate increases
Construction and access revenues increased 1.7% on year-over-year basis in the fourth quarter as steady demand in non-residential and public infrastructure markets more than offset softness within residential markets
We did talk about last quarter a significant win in the CV market for MSA, and we continue to pursue additional CV opportunities and powersports opportunities with MSA capabilities
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Having said that, that same customer continues to have, as they have publicly indicated, some supply chain challenges as well in Q1
During the fourth quarter, commercial vehicle revenues decreased by 1% on a year-over-year basis primarily due to $5 million of estimated net sales impact of the UAW strikes
And so with that, even though we have new project launches buffering that, we do expect to see a little bit of sales decline in the second half
I think the base business, obviously, is going to be down
Most of our ag customers have indicated a decline in the range of 10% to 15%, both in large ag and small ag as well
Our performance during the quarter reflects softening overall demand as the industry navigates regulatory changes as well as a general slowing in the economic activity, but was offset by new project launches which we expect will be a tailwind for MEC throughout 2024
And not that there'll be an under-absorbed position, but certainly, it does put a little pressure and negate some of the impact of the Hazel Park launch
So in the first half, we would expect some under-absorption of costs
Q2 will be okay, and then we expect Q3 and Q4 for the base CV business to continue that decline
Jag Reddy Let me hit on, Tim, you know, the points that Todd made, while, when I was joining the company in 2022, you know, I've talked to a lot of customers, a lot of shareholders, and obviously investment community, right? One of the big concerns that was raised was that MEC tends to, many of the end markets that MEC plays in, right, you know, whether it's ag or commercial vehicle or, you know, construction, right, they tend to move in the same direction given the macro exposure, right? And that could be, you know, a challenge, you know, in a down year, right? So what we're saying here, as we have laid out clearly end market by end market, when CV is going to be down 16%, we're going to be flat
First, you mentioned 5 million negative impact to sales and commercial vehicles in the fourth quarter
However, our fourth quarter revenues were modestly impacted by the broader UAW strikes
The market is going to be down 16%
But also, there's a general slowdown expected in 2024 for CD industry as a whole, as we mentioned
Currently, ACT Research forecasts the Class 8 vehicle production to decrease 16.2% year-over-year in 2024 to 285,000 units
And then when you think of fourth quarter, just because it's shorter number of days and then planned shutdowns that customers do each year around the holidays, we would expect to see even a little more top line reduction
Given current market conditions, we anticipate customers slowing demand as higher interest rates curb discretionary consumer spending but we expect these dynamics will be more than offset by an ongoing new project launches at MEC, resulting in our expectation of high single-digit growth in 2024
As expected and as previously communicated, our fourth quarter results were impacted by the UAW strikes that were resolved in November together with the ongoing ramp up of production at our Hazel Park facility
Second quarter, again, similar growth, but knowing that there's going to be, you know, a decline in the CV market that begins in the second half
When you think of even a margin progression Q1 for the most part will be a little bit down as you compare to Q4
   

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