Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We are extremely pleased with our resilient core NOI growth during the past three years
Green Acres has performed extremely well
Today, Macerich is extremely well positioned for the future as I pass the baton of leadership over to a man most of you know, Jackson Hsieh
To recap, as we have emerged from the 2020 pandemic same-center NOI growth, generated by our high-quality Class A portfolio has been tremendous, with NOI growth averaging 7.4% in both ‘21 and ‘22, followed by 4.5% same-center NOI growth in 2023
So to conclude, our leasing and operating metrics were very solid in 2023
We had a strong fourth quarter, which included same-center NOI of 3% for the quarter and 4.5% for the year
And I think this is a result of the very healthy retailer environment that exists today as well as a testament to our best-in-class portfolio of super regional town centers
So given this and everything Tom and Scott discussed, we remain optimistic as we look to 2024 and beyond
We posted positive releasing spreads of 17.2% for the year
We had quarterly EBITDA margin improvement of over 100 basis points versus the fourth quarter of last year
We’ve got improvement in rental rate
Also, keep in mind, as a result of the very strong leasing activity in ‘22 and ‘23, we have a very large and healthy leasing pipeline with nearly 2.2 million square feet of leases that have been signed but are not open yet
The result of which is a very strong, vibrant and exciting pipeline of tenants slated to open this year and into 2026
This morning, we’re extremely pleased to report a strong finish to the year
So it was really nice to be able to window and execute well at a good rate
And I think it was a great execution hitting a window
So very happy to get a 10-year deal on it, stagger out that maturity, et cetera, et cetera, especially at a very attractive rate
But it is a good opportunity
These trends are consistent with what’s been reported over prior quarters, they’re driven by improved occupancy growth and rental rate as well as a continued conversion from variable to fixed rent structures with CAM and tax recovery charges
So -- but I do think by the time we get to the end of the year, you’ll see continued margin improvement year-over-year
We continue to expect gains in occupancy and net operating income as we progress through 2024 and into ‘25
As I approach retirement, I’m highly confident in the future of the Company under the leadership of Jackson, our Board of Directors and the balance of our incredibly talented leadership team here at Macerich
And as I mentioned earlier, 2023 was a record leasing year for Macerich over the past three decades
We closed out 2023 with very strong leasing metrics and leasing volumes
We also believe that we are benefiting from a rotation of financing capital away from the office sector and into the Class A retail real estate sector
We’re now finding significant opportunities to finance our assets within the sustained strong performance of our Class A retail
There’s been a dramatic improvement in the quality of the portfolio to say the lease
And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there’s a very, very healthy retailer environment out there with very strong balance sheets
So we’re very pleased with our activity throughout last year and to start this year
We’re putting in much more attractive merchants, much more diversified uses that will draw traffic and better sales volumes at better rent levels
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
That’s down slightly from $847 at the end of the third quarter, and that’s primarily due to a decline in the sales of electric vehicles
It certainly has its challenges given its market positioning with north of the border in Canada and the local market
So for starters, we are dealing with some more challenging comps
Year-end 2023 sales were down 1.8% from year-end 2022 and after a post-pandemic spike in spending across all retail categories, 2023 was clouded with increasing interest rates, inflation and the constant threat of a recession
And as I’ve said in the past, and it remains the case, while there’s still uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment, to date, we continue to see a little pullback from the retailers
The bankruptcies overall in both 2022 and 2023 were at their lowest levels since 2013, which is consistent with our significantly reduced tenant watch list
And recall, we’ve been trying to finance that thing through a difficult capital market environment for almost two years
In addition, I would say operating expenses do remain relatively elevated when you think of things like insurance costs, security labor, I mentioned bad debts, those are all contributing to some headwind in same center that I would quantify it roughly 150 basis points or so, headwind in same center
If you look at our percentage rents on a pro rata basis, they were down about 16% in ‘23 versus ‘22
Obviously, the market today is a tough market to do debt
If my memory is right, about 12 months ago, I said we do expect roughly a 15% to 20% decline in percentage rents into 2023 from 2022
And then secondly, a $4 million decline in noncash straight-line rental revenue, primarily from the conversion of GAAP to cash rents for the lease with Google at One Westside, which Tom mentioned we’ve disposed of as of year-end
Certainly, if you look at our expiring rents in 2023, they were a lot lower than what we expected in 2024
I will miss all of you, I would like to say I’ll miss all of you, but I’m not so sure about that
We’re estimating roughly about a mid-single-digit decline in percentage rents and some of that is just as you get escalations and base rents, you get an increase in breakpoint
This decline is due to the robust disposition activity from our land sale program that we’ve undertaken since 2021 which is significantly depleted our undeveloped land inventory that remains
Conversely, like I said, we’ve got operating expenses continue to be somewhat of a drag, not a huge drag, but somewhat of a drag
Bankruptcies continued to be at a record low
As we look into 2024, and we’re looking at percentage rent trends versus ‘23, I expect those to continue to tick down, but not nearly as significantly as they did in 2023
Portfolio average sales per foot was $836, down slightly from last year, but nonetheless a top quality sale activity
   

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