Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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EV sales in China continue to reach new records during the third quarter
So again, we continue to see some, frankly, not expected, but very good cost improvements over the second half of this year
You can see from this data that when market prices were at their lowest in the 2019 to '21 period, Livent had its greatest outperformance in terms of both pricing levels and predictability
By focusing on building a leading position in value-added products, we have meaningfully outperformed in pricing terms, but just as important, we've been able to reduce the volatility of our realized pricing year-over-year, creating greater predictability of earnings, which is a key benefit when assessing the attractiveness of investing in multi-year lithium projects
Although revenue was down 9% on a year-over-year basis, we were able to increase adjusted EBITDA by 8% over the same period
Despite some of the recent declines seen in the retail market prices, Livent's adjusted EBITDA and margin continue to be near all-time highs, reflecting the benefits of our commercial strategy, as well as the low-cost position of our resource in Argentina
While some of these strengths will take time to fully realize, we expect to see real tangible benefits in 2024, including improved product flows between our production assets and lower combined operating costs as we work toward run rate synergies of $125 million and one-time capital savings of $200 million
Agreeing to fixed prices just for next year gives us some additional confidence of delivering a year-over-year price increase on a meaningful portion of our volumes
Our balance sheet and overall liquidity remains very strong
The combination of our current cash position, a strong outlook for cash generation, and our ability to draw on the credit facility give us continual confidence in our ability to internally fund our capacity expansions
You should expect Livent to continue bringing greater clarity to his business through its commercial strategy, its diverse product offering, and leading cost profile
It's strong relative cost position, its strategic location in North America to serve growing regional demand and its favourable sustainability profile, including access to low carbon hydroelectric energy
This project continues to be very attractive due to its scale with an asset operating life of over 30 years based on current resource definition
This is a result of the company's best-in-class, low-cost resource base, and its operating cost discipline, which supports profitability through different market cycles and it is this discipline around pricing and costs that gives us confidence in our ability to continue to fund the investment in our world-class resources from internally generated funds
Livent also benefits from the diversification brought by its other lithium specialties products, including butyllithium
Even prior to 2018, Livent was looking for ways to improve its profitability profile, both in absolute terms, but also in terms of predictability of earnings
The merger will immediately increase our global scale and growth profile, further diversify our asset base and product offering, and improve our vertically integrated footprint
This also means that we will be generating higher cash flow in 2024 under a wide range of different price scenarios, including one where market prices remain at today's level throughout 2024 and we intend to continue to use this cash flow to fund multiple highly attractive capacity expansion opportunities available to us while maintaining a healthy balance sheet
For example, NEV battery installations in China were up 24% year-over-year for the third quarter and were 32% higher through the first three quarters of 2023
We will, of course, have more to share with you early next year after the close, but we remain excited as ever about the opportunities this merger will bring to all shareholders
Gilberto Antoniazzi Look from a cost perspective, actually we've been having some good news, as you probably see in the back slide we have
I think you've seen the balance sheet that we have today is pretty solid
First, Livent will be producing and selling meaningfully higher volumes to customers next year, potentially 50% more than in 2023
So if price remain what it is, we're going to have some improvement costs in our specialty business and I think we might have some benefits also for currency in some other countries
This still represents significant growth of 13% and 14% respectively at the mid points versus prior year
We reported third quarter results that were highlighted by adjusted EBITDA of $120 million, up 8% on a year-over-year basis, with a margin that was roughly flat versus the prior quarter and a nine percentage point higher margin than a year ago
Livent has always looked to maximize the sale price of every lithium unit we produce, and also create a business that protects us from the most extreme volatility in lithium pricing
Livent's customers value the high quality of our products and our growth capabilities, and are willing to enter in long-term agreements with firm volumes and other forms of commitment to support us
Globally, EV sales grew 25% in the month of September and are up 37% year-to-date, but it's fair to say that in the third quarter we did not see demand for lithium at levels that are consistent with these numbers
In order to be a reliable partner, we will structure these contracts to give us confidence to invest in expansion while also retaining the ability to take advantage of market opportunities when available
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Demand growth for qualified, high-quality product continues to be extremely challenging for the supply side to meet in the near to medium term
On pricing, Livent's average realized price in the third quarter were lower than the first half of this year, as anticipated, reflecting the continued price declines seen in the market since late Q2, particularly in China
On the demand side, we can see that customer buying activity for lithium in Q3 was weaker than what end market demand indicators would imply
But what we've actually seen is brine based production steadily lose market share in this timeframe
We continue to see production expansion delays globally and keep in mind that the increased sources of supply that most observers typically point to, namely African spodumene or Chinese lepidolite are much higher cost material on the global cost curve and certainly a higher cost than today's indices are pointing to
And as we've said in the past, the amount of lipidolite production that has come into the market is actually a symptom of insufficient supply from other sources
Compared to the prior year guidance, this is driven primarily by lower expected volume sold, along with a smaller expected price increase year-over-year versus 2022
There's no doubt there's been financial pressures on some
The challenge with that, frankly, there's a couple of challenges
And financial pressures appear to have caught up with them in the second half of the year, forcing them to liquidate this inventory largely to stay alive
Unfortunately, I suspect pricing will be constantly passing through that range, upwards and downwards, for a few years still to come
I think they are a natural part of the process of the teething problems that North America is absolutely going to go through in this inevitable transition to EVs, whether it's smaller, cheaper vehicles or not, whether it's challenges with charging infrastructure that need to be addressed first over the next few years
Five years ago, although demand expectations for lithium were high driven by the rapid adoption of EVs, there was much greater uncertainty about the pace of adoption than there is today
In addition, where there are greater controls around imports of replacement parts, such as in Argentina, further delays are taking place
One of them, we found the supply very unreliable
However, we are finding they are more challenging to resolve when operating in remote regions and especially in jurisdictions where access to specialized skilled labor is limited due to a lack of local talent and challenges in bringing international expats into the country
We never thought that was achievable
So, but I'm wondering if you're seeing or acknowledging any slowdown in demand in North America based on your conversations with that ecosystem and a little bit more nuanced to the extent that there is slowdown and it's about the price points, we seem tough to lower the prices that are needed to get these EVs more within reach of mainstream consumers
We've seen lipid light production reduce
Construction for the first phase is complete and was finished in line with the timing expectations laid out at the beginning of this year, but the process of commissioning the new units has been slower than we had previously forecast
   

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