Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We were really excited coming out of the show and we're able to secure a lot of orders and we had a pretty good run building those orders
So the margins look pretty strong right now
I'm proud of our team's execution, controlling expenses during a lower demand environment in 2023
And as the market improves, we are well positioned from a sales standpoint
And we continue -- we've been really impressed, I've got my secret sales weapon, Kenny out there, running down new dealers
We are managing this area closely and are excited about the opportunities we see
Legacy is a high-quality business with strong consistent margins, high insider ownership, low leverage and the ability to redeploy its earnings at high rates of return
The notes are performing well and we like the stable and recurring revenue
And we continue to see those opportunities to generate great returns with a secured loan and ultimately help some of our customers out with projects that where we'll get some orders once they get through the development
Our management team is excited to see what we can do over the next few years
So we're seeing some good improvement on the dealer side
And I think that, that continues to be a good opportunity for us
Our loan book continues to perform really well
And there's a lot of benefits that we pick up by adding company-owned retail stores because you capture the retail margin and you accelerate the financing opportunities to our consumer loan portfolio
Second, our heritage stores are on track for the best sales month in the last 12 months
We've taken production down to meet the demand and they're building the backlog but the dealer side of the business is fairly strong
But for Q1, I think it looks better than Q4 but maybe not as good as the some of the prior quarters in early 2023
And we've added a lot of new independent dealers which is great for us because when the park side cycles, we do really need the dealers and we like the financing opportunities on the consignment -- on the Federal Investors consumer financing side
You had some positive backlog from your October show
We thought that when we spoke last quarter, that we were -- we looked really good and we were planning on taking up production
But we've had -- I mean, you guys have seen the press releases and with some of the NEOs, I mean we've had a lot of turnover at the senior level which I think in many cases, is a good thing for the business long term
But I'd say the dealer side of the business is improving
And we've had some nice sized orders
Workforce housing; I continue to believe workforce housing is a big opportunity for Legacy
And I think the contributions will be great
And so I think that there is some room to help them improve as well
We believe in our industry and continue to see signs of a gradual recovery in 2024 and as the economy stabilizes and credit eases
We've got great show specials
The retail or dealer side of our business continues to show signs of life
In 2023, we started building nearly all of our HUD code units to ENERGY STAR standards, a voluntary program that will save our customers' money
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
These factors all contributed to lower shipments during the fourth quarter
I underestimated seasonality on the dealer side, further delayed shipments from both Texas and Georgia plants to mobile home parks and weather up north delaying shipments of subcontracted units from our partners
And we've had some challenges managing our retail stores
Shipments were lower in the fourth quarter than we would have liked
Like other manufacturers, we have battled delayed shipments due to setup related issues and discriminatory zoning practices
But during the fourth quarter, we just had a lot of things that worked against us and ultimately slowed down shipments
Product sales decreased to $145.1 million or 34.7% in 2023 as compared to 2022
So I think that, that has impacted us
continues to deteriorate
Between December 31, 2023 and December 31, 2022, our net revenue per unit sold decreased 10.4% to $59,600
And it's just -- we've been pushing, we've been pushing hard all year and we just -- we kind of hit a point where there was a lot of delays in shipments
Net income decreased 19.6% to $54.5 million between December 31, 2023 and December 31, 2022
And so we kind of just had a little bit of a perfect storm and delays on the park side and just some seasonality on the dealer side
That is a big headwind
This decrease was driven by a decrease in unit volumes and the conversion of certain independent dealer consignment arrangements to inventory finance arrangements in 2022 that did not occur in 2023
I've had some delays, shipping houses out of Georgia which it just seems to be one thing after another there but we're pretty close, I think, to getting back on track
And the park side, like I mentioned, has been spotty, where a project will go and you'll be able to deliver a few months of houses or in many cases, there's significant delays with utilities or permitting or other things that happen for these developments or retrofits
I mean we were impacted
I think that new development is slower than we like but it's still stable
And then the last question I had, we've heard from some of your stick-built competitors that mortgage qualification has been getting more difficult, not just because of higher rates but now you're seeing credit card debt starting to move up, other types of debt moving up and that's causing more disqualifications for certain site builders
   

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