Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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We've got really good systems, which translates into robust data to manage profitability
Insurance companies having more pricing power, so in that favorable pricing environment, yeah, we leaned into it and grew our business in a pretty dramatic fashion
And lastly, diluted operating earnings per share continues to improve and was $3.87 per share for the quarter compared to $2.60 per share last year
Company strategy of disciplined E&S underwriting and technology enabled low costs drive these results and allows us to have returns and to take market share from competitors at the same time
We provide our brokers with the broadest risk appetite and the best customer service in the business
And we use our low expense ratio to offer our customers competitively priced insurance, while also delivering best-in-class margins to our stockholders
Since much of this expense advantage is predicated on our advanced systems and our team of world class technology professionals, we believe the competitive advantage of our technology model not only has durability to it, but has the potential to become even more powerful in the years ahead
As we have noted over the last several years, the E&S market continues to benefit from the inflow of business from standard companies and from rate increases driven by inflation and relatively tight underwriting conditions
On the investment side, net investment income increased by 71.2% over the fourth quarter last year, as a result of continued growth in investment portfolio, generated from strong operating cash flows and higher interest rates, with a gross return of 4% for the year compared to 3% last year
But on a consolidated basis, we've got a really good track record of posting reserves in a conservative fashion and develop favorably over time
And so, even the construction business is generating a healthy return for us
Investors should have a high level of confidence in the Kinsale sell balance sheet, as we expect overall reserves to continue to develop favorably in the years ahead
We continue to see growth across our book of business with particularly strong growth in our property divisions along with entertainment, general casualty, excess casualty and commercial auto divisions
But in general, I would say that Kinsale has done a good job over our – this is our 15th accident year in business
And we're really happy with the results
And I think we've done a really good job in setting aside conservative reserves, not every single year, but effectively I think 13 of the 14 prior years have developed favorably on inception to date basis
But I think Kinsale is very good at staying ahead of changes in the torque system
Another solid quarter with 33.8% growth in written premium, very low cat activity and net income and net operating earnings increasing by 53.7% and 49.6%, respectively
Submission growth continues to be strong and actually experienced a bit of an acceleration to the mid-20s for the quarter
This number is subject to some variability, but in general, we view submissions as a leading indicator of growth, and so we see the submission the growth rate as a positive signal
So that's given us the ability to raise rates, and at the same time grow the top line at a really good clip
Overall, once again, a good quarter
In the fourth quarter of 2023, Kinsale's operating earnings per share increased by 49% and gross written premium grew by 33.8% over the fourth quarter 2022
Can it help us increase the productivity of our workers, effectively lowering our expenses? Absolutely
In general, our book of business is performing at a really attractive level
Casualty, as Brian said, was pretty steady, but very strong double-digit growth
But in general, I would say the casualty business has performed well
We continue to be optimistic about growth in 2024
And having made technology a core competency of our business 15 years ago, when we started the company, alongside of underwriting and claim handling, I think it just puts us in a very interesting position today compared to a lot of companies in the industry that maybe aren't quite as far along
So we still see a great opportunity in property
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
So it's something that creates, I think, a challenge for the industry
It's a huge concern to our customers
So, we had one bad year, but in general, it's immaterial
And so, I do think that had a negative impact in the level of conservatism from a couple of those years
The longer the elevated inflation persists, the more pressure the industry will see on reserves, particularly on longer tail lines
There's all sorts of quantitative methods that we use to drive more certainty, but there is an element of uncertainty
There's all sorts of reasons for caution
It's just that some of those claims have developed a little bit later than maybe we originally anticipated
Finally, inflation has moderated somewhat from its highs, but getting the inflation rate to the Fed's target has proven to be a much longer effort than many prognosticators had forecast
When inflation picked up, that wasn't really anticipated
Michael Zaremski I feel like you've been talking about it a lot, but I guess you haven't been willing to say it could kind of decouple your long term thoughts on growth because the company still expects growth over the long term to decline along with the marketplace
There's a level of complexity there that I think would preclude us from getting into too much detail on a conference call
We set aside more than we think we will need to allow for some uncertainty in the process, the possibility of a changing towards system and the uptick of inflation we have experienced more recently in the last couple of years
I would agree that we are seeing, I think, continued casualty submission inflow, which is probably stemming from some of the reserve issues that some of the other competitors are having
And so, I think it's just prudent to be as cautious as possible, within reason, in terms of setting aside dollars today to pay claims in the future
I would probably take issue with the idea that we don't compete on price
I was hoping you could offer a little bit more color on the loss emergence trends that you're seeing from those that sort of 2019 and prior accident year period, particularly in this environment, whereas, as you described, some carriers are experiencing adverse development
I know there's some variability you cited on that
We also tend to focus on smaller accounts, which probably insulates us a little bit
Professional lines probably grew a little bit less than the rest of the book
   

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