Earnings Sentiment

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Earnings Call Transcript Word Cloud

     

Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Can you comment on that? Gener Miao We are confident that our cost structure is leading and we have advantage
We also continue to improve our ESG practices and optimize our traceability system
Benefiting from our efforts in cost optimization, our profit ability for the full year improved significantly year-over-year, with growth margin at 16% compared to 14.8% in 2022
And the most important thing is we think China’s demand is exceeding the expectations
With our advantages in N-type TOPCon technology, globalized operations, and integrated capacity, we are very confident in our growth prospect and will continue to improve working capital efficiency and achieve sustainable growth in operating cash flow
Module shipments in the fourth quarter was 26.3 gigawatts, exceeding our guidance
We are pleased to have achieved a historical high in quarterly and annual module shipments, thanks to our excellent global marketing network and the power of our products
The improved outlook, the demand outlook, and you are talking about US shipments in the second half year, low risk
In addition, while some manufacturers without competitive cost or advanced products reduce or suspend production, we maintained our leading utilization rates in the industry as a result of cost advantage and high order visibility
China demand is very, very good and Europe, the destock has been completed and they are picking up the stock
In a short to midterm, we expect that the decline in module price will significantly improve the economics of solar energy and we anticipate demand in the global PV markets will continue to increase in 2024
We think it's a big advantage with its existing production structures for the industry
We also improved working capital efficiency and optimized operating cash flow
We're confident to consistently enhance our competitiveness through cyclical fluctuations and we expect our market share to further increase in 2024
[Foreign Language] Thanks to our integrated manufacturing strategy and leading position in N-type TOPCon technology in the early stage, by the end of fourth quarter, our N-type capacity exceeded 70 gigawatts, and our cost structure continues to improve
It's -- the Shanxi super factories, it's digitalized and automated and the ESG traceability is low carbon, everything and we integrated a lot of advanced equipment and streamlined a lot of the even phase out some production phase stage and have significant workforce efficiency and very high turnover ratios and very good locations to serve the customers in the West China as well as the global market customers
Pan Li Thanks to the solid execution, our operations and management strategies, as well as successful efforts in cost optimization, we delivered excellent financial performance
[Foreign Language] With the largest overseas integrated capacity of over 12 gigawatts in the industry and an effective supply chain traceability system, we have become the most reliable module supplier to the US market, which is expected to generate a significant profit in 2024
So we think there's a kind of the improved outlook from the demand side
The full integration of automation can greatly improve labor efficiency and operation turnover efficiency and is expected to bring a significant reduction in operating costs after reaching full production
That is we're very confident
In longer term, the requirement of AI for computing power will further increase the demand for electricity and electrical equipment, ensuring strong growth potential for PV plus storage
We are bullish about PV market growth in the mid to long term and we are confident we will continue to lead the industry with advanced technologies and premium and high-efficiency products
Li Xiande [Foreign Language] We are pleased to have achieved very impressive operational and financial results in a challenging year by leveraging our advantages in N-type TOPCon technology, globalized operations, and integrated capability
And we think we are relatively better than the other peers
This gradually improved the PV economics and the growing demand for transmission to clean energy globally
And in the combinations with the 2 gigawatts, the module capacity in the US, I think we are in a good position
And we have very good traceability systems and proof record rather than the last year
We continued to improve product quality and build our customer service network to expand the influence of our brand
But this year we think it's a good opportunity to catch up the markets and build a strong foundation for the next few years
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Gross margin for the fourth quarter was 12.5%, a significant decline from 19.3% in the third quarter
At the same time, excess supply in various links of the industrial chain led to price decline
But you're right, if we are, let's say, making low profit levels, I think a lot of companies doing a similar business will lose the money
We remain cautious and irrational in the face of abnormally low tenders
Tender prices for modules at the year-end decreased over 40% to below RMB1 per watt
In January and February 2024, seasonality combined with extreme competition from certain manufacturers intensified the market panic and irrational prices
As module prices fell more than expected in the fourth quarter and nearly 50% of our modules were sold through the Chinese market at lower prices
But to answer your question, I think you want to explore is, for sure, if Q1, Q2 versus Q4 last year, we think the ASP is still in the downward trend, but it's not dramatically, but slightly, and we think it's reaching to the bottom in the first half of the year, 2024, for the ASP
I think the price is not sustainable
Still some oversupply situations
So in terms, going back to the gross margin, so you are suggesting that the first quarter gross margin should be slightly lower than the fourth quarter
Alan Lau So you don't see inventory as an issue even in the DG market anymore because last year it was a huge issue
That basically means Tier 3 will have shut down and Tier 2 will be selling much lower output than they are selling right now
But we think the most important thing is to focus on our added revenues throughout the relatively challenging year
Inventory turnover days were down to 57 days from 67 days in the third quarter
The other thing is maybe some China party -- but I think there is a relatively risk, and there's a very complicated compliance
AR turnover days were down to 76 days in the fourth quarter from 87 days in the third quarter
Let's say two quarters, and we don't believe the price, particularly in China, is sustainable
The decreases were many due to the decrease in average selling prices of solar modules
One is some kind of customer dispute
   

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