Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Look, at the heart of it, we have this incredible and unique reach we reach 90% of Americans with our AM, FM broadcast business our assets that's higher than Facebook and Google it's double more than double the broadcast network TV networks and no one in the digital audio space comes close
It's a great free cashflow business
We have the largest social footprint of any audio service by a factor of seven and we operate 3,000 national and local websites that reach more than 120 million people in the United States each month, all of which represent additional opportunities for our advertising partners to interact with our highly engaged consumer base and provide additional revenue growth for the company
We think that's the major benefit to us in broadcast radio
So when you look at our asset base and our performance, this company continues to be a great generator of free cash flow
So we're optimistic that we're seeing that, and that we'll be a beneficiary of it
It was encouraging to see your confidence in the growth in the Digital Audio Group continuing through the year
So in combination with our ongoing efficiency efforts, and given the power of technology now at our disposal, we expect to see a significant year-over-year improvement in our adjusted EBITDA performance
This was the highest margin we've ever achieved in a quarter for the Digital Audio Group and I would note that for the full-year this was the Digital Audio Group's best adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin as well at approximately $350 million of adjusted EBITDA with a margin of 33%
To take a step back, as you can see from the results in this quarter, we've continued to build out a successful and high growth digital business, which for the full-year 2023, generate over a billion dollars of revenue with a 33% adjusted EBITDA margin
Podcasting continues to be the hottest new consumer medium and as we are the industry leader, it remains a strong growth engine for the company
So broadcast radio doing extraordinarily well with the consumer and has a huge upside opportunity in our mind for advertising sales because of one, that reach and two, our ability to serve that reach as Rich talked earlier, being able to provide that same kind of reach to specific cohorts, not just Nielsen audiences
The podcast sector continues to have superior CPMs, premium CPMs
We expect to see our Multiplatform Group performance improve quarter-by-quarter throughout the year and of course as 2024 is a presidential election year we expect to see a material benefit from political advertising the back half of the year as well
As we look to the year ahead, we see 2024 as a recovery year, and we expect a return to growth mode, which will benefit all of our assets with a disproportionate adjusted EBITDA benefit to our Multiplatform Group and broadcast radio assets because of the higher operating leverage in that segment
While the advertising marketplace ended up being more uncertain than we had originally anticipated when we began the year, we navigated that ad environment and at the same time continued to make important strides in the initiatives that are critical to our longer-term success, including substantial progress in developing our proprietary technology platform to enhance our advertising business, which will unlock programmatic and automated trading revenue for our broadcast inventory, the application of AI to translate our podcast content, enabling cost-effective international expansion into non-English language markets, and continuing to extend our audience leadership position beyond just AMFM and onto new devices and platforms
The Digital Audio Group's adjusted EBITDA was $117 million, up 17.3% year-over-year, and our Q4 margins were 36.7%, a year-over-year increase of 370 basis points
That, you know, as a reminder, we've been building out the ad tech platform with the data and analytics, which will allow us, and it's obviously one of the advantages of having such a strong hand in podcasting, that if someone finds an audience they really like, that's really engaged, that's very important to them, we'll be able to find that audience in broadcast radio at greater scale and add it to the podcast reach of whatever they're doing
And looking at our Digital Audio Group, we're excited about the growth of the overall digital audio TAM, as well as our own growth within it
In fact, since 2019, we have actually reduced our Multiplatform Group expenses by approximately 7%, which has in part helped us to fund the growth of our Digital Audio Group, whose adjusted EBITDA grew by approximately 270% over that same time period
And I think as you look at our numbers and the data, we continue to make great progress towards that
So we see this trajectory as further validation that January was an anomaly and a positive sign for us as we progress throughout the year
Additionally, our financial discipline has paid off as our podcasting EBITDA margins continue to be accretive to our total company EBITDA margins
So that is a real advantage we have
And we are now currently pacing slightly better than down 1% for the quarter
We think advertising is strengthening
For the quarter, the Digital Audio Group generated adjusted EBITDA of $117 million, up 17.3% versus prior year, and the Digital Audio Group's adjusted EBITDA margins were 37%, up from 33% in Q4 2022
Within the Digital Audio Group, our podcast revenues grew 16.6% versus prior year
Rich Bressler Yes, and the other thing I would say, look, we had, just as a reminder, in Digital ex podcasting, which obviously we think continues to be a great growth engine for us
And obviously adding the technology to our broadcast radio inventory, our strategy is to get that into the digital TAM too, so that eventually the broadcast radio inventory benefits from the growth of digital overall
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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Turning to the Audio and Media Services Group, revenues were $68 million, down approximately 28.6% year-over-year, and adjusted EBITDA was $21 million, down from $45 million in the prior year
Adjusted EBITDA was $142 million, down 38.5% year-over-year
In the fourth quarter, revenues were $684 million, down 6.7% versus prior year, and down 3.2% excluding the impact of political advertising
The first quarter got off to a slow start with January revenue down 8% year-over-year
Adjusted EBITDA was $142 million, down 38.5% versus prior year
The Multiplatform Groups' revenues were $684 million, down 6.7% year-over-year, or down 3.2%, excluding the impact of political
We expect the multi-platform groups revenue to be down mid-single-digits
Excluding the impact of political in the prior year quarter, the Audio and Media Services Group's revenues were down 5.2%
In terms of free cash flow, as a reminder, Q1 is always our lowest free cash flow quarter of the year and in Q1, 2023, we generated negative free cash flow before returning to positive free cash flow generation in all subsequent quarters
It was down a bit in Q4
We had a tough comp last year, because we were still dealing with a significant amount of COVID money last year when you look at that comparison
And we expect our Q1 2024 revenues to be flat to down 2% year-over-year
And I think, again, for whatever reason, and I think listening to others, you heard it in the marketplace, the January just start off a little slow
The problem with broadcast radio has not been the consumer reach, has not been the consumer
And as a reminder, the Audio and Media Services Group also includes television revenues, which has greater year-to-year peaks and troughs due to the impact of political advertising
The Multiplatform Groups' fourth quarter margins were primarily impacted by year-over-year increases in trade and barter marketing expenses, as I mentioned previously, as well as increases to certain programming fees and bad debt expenses, which were partially offset by the previously announced ongoing cost reduction programs
Could you just help us understand what the trends are there? Is there continued pricing pressure there? Are you seeing any engagement issues on your ad supported music platforms? Because we've seen a lot of growth and things like TikTok
It's the slowest month of the year
So first, just on the advertising inflection from down 8 in January to pacing up low-single-digits February, March, you know, wondering if there's particular areas that you can point to that's driving that, whether it's national improving, whether it's particularly -- particular categories coming back to the market that you hadn't seen
   

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