Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

Statement
Net life sales grew 12% to $26 million, and net health sales were $9 million, up 9% from the year ago quarter due primarily to increased agent count
The $11.55 mid-point is higher than our previous guidance and reflects recent favorable mortality trends continuing in 2024
We are encouraged by this short-term trend and to the extent it continues, we would expect continued favorable remeasurement gains in 2024
So the agent count growth really accelerated in the last half of the year, which bodes very well from a 2024 perspective
Net health sales grew 12% to $25 million due to increased productivity and higher agent counts during 2023
So I think that’s going to bode very well for 2024 performance as well
At American Income Life, life premiums were up 7% over the year ago quarter to $406 million, and life underwriting margin was up 5% to $183 million
In 2024, driven by strong premium growth in both our American Income and Liberty National divisions, we expect life premium revenue to grow between 4.5% and 5% at the midpoint of our guidance and life underwriting margin to grow between 7% and 7.5%
In health insurance, premium grew 3% to $336 million, and health underwriting margin was up 1% to $97 million
Clearly, we had a very good, very strong Q4 and what was nice to see is that was both on the individual side and the group side
Net health sales were $28 million, which is up 40% over the year ago quarter due to strong activity both in the individual and group Medicare Supplement businesses
Liberty continues to generate strong growth in both agent count and sales due in part to the new technology implemented over the past few years, which has provided more granular field activity feedback and allowed agents to track their sales activity and training progress
American Income has had sequential agent growth each quarter of 2023, but accelerated in the last half of the year to double-digit growth, which bodes well for sales growth in 2024
For the full year 2024, we expect net investment income to grow between 5% and 6% due to the combination of the favorable interest rate environment and steady growth in our invested assets
As we said before, we are pleased to see higher interest rates as this has a positive impact on operating income by driving up net investment income with no impact to our future policy benefits since they are not interest sensitive
I am pleased to see the strong growth in agent count and sales as we continue to build momentum from the recruiting and agent retention initiatives put in place at the end of 2022
We see continued positive momentum on the recruiting side
Now Family Heritage, Family Heritage, health premiums increased 8% over the year-ago quarter to $102 million, and health underwriting margin increased 12% to $36 million
Now at Liberty National, life premiums were up 8% over the year ago quarter to $90 million, and life underwriting margin was up 16% to $31 million
Frank Svoboda One thing I would add to that is that I think we’re generally pleased, clearly, with what we were seeing here in the third and fourth quarters
Life underwriting margin was $305 million, also up 4% from a year ago
And then that the higher margins really representing that better mortality, which is really going to manifest itself in the combination of both remeasurement gains over the course of the year
The growth in life premium reflects the significant progress this agency has made over the past several years, going from no growth in life premiums in 2016 and just 2% annual growth through 2019 to where we are today
And I’m very happy to see that the retention efforts that we’ve put in place at American Income are coming through in the stats that we’re seeing
For the fourth quarter, life policy obligations were favorable when compared to our assumptions of mortality and persistency
The other thing I’m really pleased to see is our agent retention trends have been continuing to move up throughout 2023
So, for instance, we’ve seen two quarters of good experience, mortality experience in the third quarter and the fourth quarter
Of course, we talk about it on a quarterly basis here on the calls, but I’m very bullish on where I think 2024 is going to come out for American Income
But we’re seeing that improvement across all the distributions
At the midpoint of our guidance for the full year 2024, we expect health underwriting margin to grow between 5% and 6%, and as a percent of premium to be around 27% to 29%
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

Statement
Net life sales were $26 million, which is down 16% from the year ago quarter, primarily due to declines in customer inquiries
Health underwriting margin was $14 million, down approximately $3 million from the year ago quarter due to both higher policy obligations and acquisition cost
Now on to Direct to Consumer, in our Direct to Consumer division at Globe Life, life premiums were flat compared to the year ago quarter at $247 million, while life underwriting margin declined 2% to $59 million due to increased acquisition cost
Administrative expenses were $77 million for the quarter, down 1% from a year ago, primarily due to a decline in pension and other employee-related costs
The remeasurement gains were quite a bit lower than we saw in the second half of the year
But the 40% to 45% is just way below the industry average
There’s been a lot of confusion about the Tri-Agency rule on limited benefit health plans
Below investment-grade bonds remained low at $530 million compared to $542 million a year ago
Recent trends, if they should continue may indicate a quicker recovery than our current assumption
But at this point, I’d say it’s getting fairly close to pre pandemic levels, so that excess mortality seems to have dropped much more quickly than what our assumptions had anticipated
It’s largely due to the declines in the spread
So that’s a drag here, a little bit on a cash flow conversion in 2024
Tom Kalmbach And then, Jimmy, I think your second question was related to sales, as we’ve mentioned in the past, as the Medicare Advantage plans, and you saw people moving into that had a little bit of impact on us
So usually, as we’ve talked about in the past, there will be a little bit of a lag from those new agents getting onboarded, trained and productive
Our goal is really to keep steady in that market, and we see competitive pressures coming and going over a long period of time
Our fixed maturity investment portfolio has a net unrealized loss position of approximately $1 billion due to current market rates being higher than the average book yield on our holdings
It’s a little bit lower than we had in 2023
This litigation relates to allegations made by former independent contractor sales agent with American Income
And fourth quarter remeasurement will probably be a little bit lighter
So from a 2024 sales perspective, to the extent that there is more disenrollment or as you’d mentioned, you’re seeing some trends out there from the cost side is costs might be increased by competitors offering those plans
   

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