Earnings Sentiment

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Bullish Statements during Earnings call

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Our presence in liquid and illiquid alternatives offer a massive funnel for the origination of credit investment opportunities, and we benefit from being able to offer these capabilities through both custom accounts as well as commingled funds
And then 2023 was a much better year for the absolute return business
We are pleased to report solid results for the fourth quarter and full year 2023, despite the challenging environment for our industry
Importantly, 2023 was another year in which we delivered value to client portfolios, strengthened and expanded our platform, and grew our earnings power and our intrinsic value for shareholders
From a financial standpoint, 2023 was a solid year and we finished the year strong
Fee-related earnings grew 23% over Q4 '22 and 9% year-over-year
It seems to me like the risk-free returns are also quite good and the equity markets were substantially better
Our fee-related earnings margin grew to 38% for the year compared to 36% in 2022
So in general, we're sitting here today coming off a good year of performance with less scheduled redemptions that we know of today and a much greater pipeline
Our FRE margin has grown by 700 basis points over the last three years as our business has continued to enjoy considerable operating leverage and scalability
We continue to forecast margin expansion going forward
On the first question, I think we're -- our internal bottoms-up build, working with our BD team and looking at our pipeline, it has a year for us that's frankly significantly better than '23 on fundraising, not '21
And just generally, I think the environment has improved on flows, pipeline has built and is larger and we hope to see that momentum continue
As I mentioned in my remarks, we think infrastructure and credit will see healthy fund flows during the year and we're enthusiastic about that
And -- so we are encouraged that some of the progress that we saw throughout the year, last year, from the first quarter of '23 through the end of the year, will continue
It's full on re-up, it's full on separate account, it is full on specialized fund, actually stronger than it's been in a while on ARS
So we are -- we're actually feeling good about fundraising
Reiterating our view on '24, we feel confident in our plans to achieve continued double-digit growth in private market [Technical Difficulty] management fees, stabilization of ARS management fees, expanded FRE margin, and significant growth potential in our incentive fee revenues
In 2024, we expect continued strong client re-ups and solid specialized funds fundraising inside of our traditional institutional channels
We see a strong pipeline everywhere and are particularly optimistic with regard to the infrastructure and credit verticals
Mentioned investment performance earlier, and we were pleased with performance across our strategies this past year
In particular, we were pleased that our absolute return strategies investment performance exceeded our base case assumptions, beating benchmarks and peers
So there's plenty of good, solid fundamental backdrop here that hasn't changed at all
Our FRE margin grew from 36% in 2022 to 38% in '23, and we expect further FRE margin expansion in '24 as we continue to harness the scalability of our business
Our private market strategy's performance was also constructive, and our significant dry powder, which exceeds $9 billion at year-end, continues to put us in a good position to deploy capital into an increasingly attractive environment
Importantly, we enter 2024 with strong private markets incentive fee earnings power, which is positioned to deliver significant revenue growth over the coming years as transaction activity returns
Since then, while realizations and therefore gross carry revenue have been muted, our carried earnings power has grown substantially
And so all of that is still very favorable as a backdrop with, we think, a lot of legs for the whole of the industry
Pulling together these factors on a year-over-year basis, fee-related earnings grew a healthy 23% in the quarter and 9% for the year
So the backdrop for us, and if you look at our pipeline across all the categories, it's good, and it's strong and it's full and it's got the re-ups that we mentioned, but it also very clearly has new client growth
       

Bearish Statements during earnings call

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As we discussed, throughout the year, 2023 was a tough market environment for fundraising, which was primarily the result of low levels of transaction activity in private market strategies
But one is that the currently scheduled redemptions for the rest of the year that we're aware of is lower today than it has been at this point in time in previous years
It underperformed equity markets as you would expect, but yields on cash remain elevated
And does that mean you'll have some mistakes here and there? Sure, like anyone
It was a slow fundraising year last year and it was significantly impacted by transaction levels, which are easy to see in kind of the carry line
But just looking at 2024 FRE margins and if there was anything one time in the fourth quarter that drove the cash-based employee comp cost to be lower than your initial guide for the quarter
And as that starts to -- that -- we think that flywheel is starting to loosen up
So as we note on the MAC III fund, the main fund had its final close, although we are in discussions with some investors about that, missed that due to their own kind of timing, budgeting constraints about potentially adding some capital in a parallel vehicle
I hate to do this on a public call, but I thought the guidance was for private market fundraising to be greater in the second half than the first, and that 3Q was sort of lighter and we were expecting sort of a bigger pop in 4Q
They involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other important factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements on this call
   

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